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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] splice : two smp_mb() can be omitted
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:49:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061031094938.GF14055@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45471A05.20205@yahoo.com.au>

On Tue, Oct 31 2006, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Eric Dumazet wrote:
> >This patch deletes two calls to smp_mb() that were done after 
> >mutex_unlock() that contains an implicit memory barrier.
> 
> Uh, there is nothing that says mutex_unlock or any unlock
> functions contain an implicit smp_mb(). What is given is that the
> lock and unlock obey aquire and release memory ordering,
> respectively.
> 
> a = x;
> xxx_unlock
> b = y;
> 
> In this situation, the load of y can be executed before that of x.
> And some architectures will even do so (i386 can, because the
> unlock is an unprefixed store; ia64 can, because it uses a release
> barrier in the unlock).
> 
> Whenever you rely on orderings of things *outside* locks (even
> partially outside), you do need to be very careful about barriers
> and can't rely on locks to do the right thing for you.

Good point, we should not make any assumptions on the way the
architecture implements the mutexes.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-31  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-30  9:03 [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: spin_lock_irqsave_nested() Peter Zijlstra
2006-10-30  9:06 ` [PATCH 2/2] lockdep: annotate bcsp driver Peter Zijlstra
2006-10-30  9:06   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-30  9:30   ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-10-30  9:31   ` [PATCH 2/2] lockdep: annotate bcsp driver - v2 Peter Zijlstra
2006-10-30  9:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: spin_lock_irqsave_nested() Ingo Molnar
2006-10-30 13:12 ` Jarek Poplawski
2006-10-30 13:27   ` Jarek Poplawski
2006-10-30 13:40   ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: spin_lock_irqsave_nested() -v2 Peter Zijlstra
2006-10-30 14:12     ` Jarek Poplawski
2006-10-31  6:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: spin_lock_irqsave_nested() Andrew Morton
2006-10-31  7:25   ` [PATCH] splice : two smp_mb() can be omitted Eric Dumazet
2006-10-31  7:32     ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-31  7:41       ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-31  7:46         ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-31  9:40     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-31  9:49       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-10-31 10:51       ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-31 22:16         ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-31 23:08           ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-31 23:45             ` Nick Piggin
2006-11-02 17:02         ` [PATCH] splice : Must fully check for fifos Eric Dumazet
2006-11-02 17:05           ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-02 19:07             ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-03  8:50               ` Jens Axboe

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