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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PATCH? hrtimer_wakeup: fix a theoretical race wrt rt_mutex_slowlock()
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 02:08:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061105230837.GA3134@oleg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0611051741070.2439@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On 11/05, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> >
> > That said, since "task->state" in only tested _inside_ the runqueue lock,
> > there is no race that I can see. Since we've gotten the runqueue lock in
> > order to even check task-state, the processor that _sets_ task state must
> > not only have done the "spin_lock()", it must also have done the
> > "spin_unlock()", and _that_ will not allow either the timeout or the task
> > state to haev leaked out from under it (because that would imply that the
> > critical region leaked out too).
> >
> > So I don't think the race exists anyway - the schedule() will return
> > immediately (because it will see TASK_RUNNING), and we'll just retry.
> >
> 
> This whole situation is very theoretical, but I think this actually can
> happen *theoretically*.
> 
> 
> OK, the spin_lock doesn't do any serialization, but the unlock does. But
> the problem can happen before the unlock. Because of the loop.

Yes, yes, thanks.

( Actually, this was more "is my understanding correct?" than a patch )

Thanks!

> CPU 1                                    CPU 2
> 
>     task_rq_lock()
> 
>     p->state = TASK_RUNNING;
> 
> 
>                                       (from bottom of for loop)
>                                       set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> 
>                                     for (;;) {  (looping)
> 
>                                       if (timeout && !timeout->task)
> 
> 
>    (now CPU implements)
>    t->task = NULL
> 
>    task_rq_unlock();
> 
>                                    schedule() (with state == TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE)
> 
> 
> Again, this is very theoretical, and I don't even think that this can
> happen if you tried to make it.  But I guess if hardware were to change in
> the future with the same rules that we have today with barriers, that this
> can be a race.
> 
> -- Steve
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-05 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-05 19:34 PATCH? hrtimer_wakeup: fix a theoretical race wrt rt_mutex_slowlock() Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-05 22:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-05 22:53   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-05 23:08     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2006-11-06  3:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-06 12:09       ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-06 12:26         ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-05 22:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-06  8:57   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-06 12:35     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-06 20:53       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-06 21:17         ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-06 21:41           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-06 12:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-06 14:15   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-06 14:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-06 15:05       ` Steven Rostedt

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