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From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>,
	"bugme-daemon@kernel-bugs.osdl.org" 
	<bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alex@hausnet.ru, mingo@redhat.com,
	ak@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 7495] New: Kernel periodically hangs.
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:45:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061112214540.GB31649@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1163340998.3293.131.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 03:16:38PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
 > 
 > > > We KNOW it can't work on a sizable amount of machines.  This is why it
 > > > is a config option; you can enable it if YOUR machine is KNOWN to work,
 > > > and you get some gains. But it's also understood that it often it won't
 > > > work. So any sensible distro (since they have to aim for a wide
 > > > audience) disables this option ...
 > > 
 > > Nowadays, many distributions only ship CONFIG_SMP=y kernels...
 > 
 > that's a calculated risk on their side (and they know that); they're
 > balancing not functioning on a set of machines off against needing more
 > kernels.

Andi has a nice patch in the suse kernel which adds heuristics to disable
apic on systems where it isn't likely to work.  It DTRT in at least
one problem case that I know of.   The actual fall-out from enabling
'run SMP kernels on UP i686' for FC6 has mostly been a non-event.
Literally a handful of cases, that will likely all get caught and worked
around by Andi's patch or similar.

		Dave

-- 
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-12 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200611111129.kABBTWgp014081@fire-2.osdl.org>
2006-11-11 18:00 ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 7495] New: Kernel periodically hangs Andrew Morton
2006-11-11 18:10   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-11 18:19     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-12 11:50       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-12 12:53         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-12 13:16           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-12 13:37             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-12 13:57               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-12 14:10                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-12 14:16                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-12 15:21                     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-12 15:50                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-12 15:59                       ` Patrick McFarland
2006-11-12 16:07                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-12 16:47                         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-12 21:45                     ` Dave Jones [this message]
2006-11-13  2:07                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-12 19:18             ` Ingo Oeser
2006-11-12 19:34               ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-12 20:32               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-13  6:42   ` Neil Brown
2006-11-13 11:22     ` David Howells

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