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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: jeff@garzik.org
Cc: torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tiwai@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: hda-intel - Disable MSI support by default
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:15:49 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061114.201549.69019823.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <455A938A.4060002@garzik.org>

From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:11:54 -0500

> Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > HOWEVER - that's only true on systems with no other PCI bridges. Even if 
> > you have an Intel NB/SB, what about other bridges in that same system, and 
> > the devices behind them? 
> > 
> > Now, I think that a MSI thing should look like a PCI write to a magic 
> > address (I'm really not very up on it, so correct me if I'm wrong), and 
> > thus maybe bridges are bound to get it right, and the only thing we really 
> > need to worry about is the host bridge. Maybe. In that case, it might be 
> > sensible to have a host-bridge white-table, and if we know all Intel 
> > bridges that claim to support MSI do so correctly, then maybe we can just 
> > say "ok, always enable it for Intel host bridges".
> 
> That's pretty much the idea behind MSI... it looks like any other PCI 
> bus transaction, rather than needing a separate pin.

Yep.

> > But right now I'm not convinced we really know what all goes wrong. Maybe 
> > it's just broken NVidia and AMD bridges. But maybe it's also individual 
> > devices that continue to (for example) raise _both_ the legacy IRQ line 
> > _and_ send an MSI request.
> 
> That reminds me of a potential driver bug -- MSI-aware drivers need to 
> call pci_intx(pdev,0) to turn off the legacy PCI interrupt, before 
> enabling MSI interrupts.

Is this absolutely true?  I've never been sure about this point, and I
was rather convinced after reading various documents that once you
program up the MSI registers to start generating MSI this implicitly
disabled INTX and this was even in the PCI specification.

It would be great to get a definitive answer on this.

If it is mandatory, perhaps the driver shouldn't be doing it and
rather the PCI layer MSI enabling should.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-15  4:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200611150059.kAF0xBTl009796@hera.kernel.org>
2006-11-15  1:34 ` [PATCH] ALSA: hda-intel - Disable MSI support by default Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15  1:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15  2:40     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15  2:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15  3:00         ` David Miller
2006-11-15  3:10           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15  3:21             ` David Miller
2006-11-15  3:54               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15  4:11                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15  4:15                   ` David Miller [this message]
2006-11-15  4:24                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15  4:28                       ` David Miller
2006-11-16  2:25                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-16  2:28                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-16  3:25                           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16  4:12                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-16  6:13                               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16 14:41                                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-11-16 15:27                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16 17:24                                     ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 19:09                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-15 19:23                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 19:49                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-15 22:31                             ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-16  2:24                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15  4:30                   ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15  4:56                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 15:53                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 18:30                       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:45                       ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-16  2:29                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 13:34                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-11-15 18:42                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 19:04                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:20                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 19:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:59                             ` Mws
2006-11-15 20:14                               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 20:53                                 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-16  6:08                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2006-11-16 23:25                                     ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-15 21:10                                 ` Mws
2006-11-16 11:10                                   ` Mws
2006-11-15  4:14                 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15  4:49                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15  4:57                   ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15  5:11                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 22:43                       ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 18:35                   ` [PATCH] ACPI: use MSI_NOT_SUPPORTED bit Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15 18:44                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 19:41                       ` [PATCH v2] " Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15 19:58                         ` [PATCH v3] " Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15 20:19                     ` [PATCH] " Len Brown
2006-11-16  2:22                 ` [PATCH] ALSA: hda-intel - Disable MSI support by default Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 10:31               ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-15 16:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 16:24                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-15 16:36                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 18:40                       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:51                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:01                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-15 19:34                       ` Stephen Clark
2006-11-15 19:48                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 20:01                           ` Stephen Clark
2006-11-15 18:32                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:32                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:58                   ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-15 19:15                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16 10:44                       ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-16 23:01                         ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-17 10:55                           ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-17 16:17                             ` Yinghai Lu
2006-11-17 16:35                               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:20                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-15 22:35                   ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15  4:01           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15  4:07             ` David Miller
2006-11-15  7:23               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 10:06                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-11-15  4:23             ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15  7:24               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15  4:04         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15  4:14           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15  4:24           ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15  2:58       ` Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15  3:10       ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-15  3:30         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15  3:53           ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-15 11:40             ` Alan
2006-11-16  4:06               ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-16  0:17 Lu, Yinghai
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-16  3:50 Lu, Yinghai
2006-11-16 23:36 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-16  4:24 linux
2006-11-16 10:53 ` Alan
2006-11-16 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16  4:25 Lu, Yinghai
2006-11-16 18:00 ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-16 23:54 Lu, Yinghai
2006-11-17  0:49 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-17 17:42 Lu, Yinghai

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