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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] floppy: suspend/resume fix
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:38:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061116123849.GB28311@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061115204933.GD3875@elf.ucw.cz>

On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 09:49:33PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > > Suspending with mounted floppy is a user error.
> > > > 
> > > > Huh?  How so?
> > > 
> > > Floppy is removable, and you are expected to umount removable devices
> > > before suspend.
> > 
> > That seems pretty crude. There are lots of cases where an apparently
> > removable device is/should be preserved properly and left mounted (eg
> > builtin CF).
> > 
> > We really want to be smarter than that - which means the drivers ought to
> > be doing stuff in their suspend/resume paths to figure out if the media
> > changed when really possible (eg IDE removable)
> > 
> > Floppy is probably not too fixable, but calling it a "user error" is
> > insulting - user expectation is reasonable that suspend/resume should
> > just work. The implementation is just rather trickier/nonsensical in this
> > case.
> 
> Yep, it would be nice to do something about that; but I'm not sure how
> this "was media changed" should be implemented, and if it should be
> done in kernel or in userland.

With a floppy the only way to do that is to read data off the disk and
compare it with what we know was on the disk prior to suspend/resume.

Since we don't have a "standard floppy format" (since we're flexible)
you can't rely on MSDOS boot sectors and the like to uniquely identify
floppy disks.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:  2.6 Serial core

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-16 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-12 20:47 [patch] floppy: suspend/resume fix Mikael Pettersson
2006-11-12 21:29 ` Russell King
2006-11-12 22:03   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-12 23:54     ` Russell King
2006-11-14 11:09       ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-14 16:34         ` Lee Revell
2006-11-15 20:24           ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-15 20:34             ` Lee Revell
2006-11-15 20:49             ` Alan
2006-11-15 20:49               ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-15 21:03                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-15 21:14                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-16 12:38                 ` Russell King [this message]
2006-11-15 18:46         ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-12 22:40 Mikael Pettersson
2006-11-12 23:58 ` Russell King
2006-11-15 18:53   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found] <7grMO-2YO-55@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <7gs69-46A-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <7gtvd-7xg-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-11-12 21:44     ` Bodo Eggert
2006-11-14 11:05       ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-12 17:53 Mikael Pettersson
2006-11-12 18:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-12 19:30   ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-12 20:35     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-12 19:40   ` Russell King
2006-11-11 20:48 [BUG] floppy: broken after resume due to 2.6.18-rc1 lockdep changes Mikael Pettersson
2006-11-12 15:47 ` [patch] floppy: suspend/resume fix Ingo Molnar

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