From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] cpufreq: mark cpufreq_tsc() as core_initcall_sync
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 01:46:27 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061118224627.GA270@oleg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0611181656230.23270-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
On 11/18, Alan Stern wrote:
>
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> > On 11/18, Alan Stern wrote:
> > >
> > > By the way, I think the fastpath for synchronize_srcu() should be safe,
> > > now that you have added the memory barriers into srcu_read_lock() and
> > > srcu_read_unlock(). You might as well try putting it in.
> >
> > I still think the fastpath should do mb() unconditionally to be correct.
>
> Yes, it definitely should.
>
> > > Although now that I look at it again, you have forgotten to put smp_mb()
> > > after the atomic_inc() call and before the atomic_dec().
> >
> > As I see it, currently we don't need this barrier because synchronize_srcu()
> > does synchronize_sched() before reading ->hardluckref.
> >
> > But if we add the fastpath into synchronize_srcu() then yes, we need mb()
> > after atomic_inc().
> >
> > Unless I totally confused :)
>
> Put it this way: If the missing memory barrier in srcu_read_lock() after
> the atomic_inc call isn't needed, then neither is the existing memory
> barrier after the per-cpu counter gets incremented.
I disagree. There is another reason for mb() after the per-cpu counter gets
incremented. Without this barrier we can read the updated value of ->completed
(incremented by synchronize_srcu()), but then read a stale data of the rcu
protected memory.
> Likewise, if a memory
> barrier isn't needed before the atomic_dec in srcu_read_unlock(), then
> neither is the memory barrier before the per-cpu counter gets decremented.
Yes, you are right, I forgot about unlock(), it definitely needs mb().
> What you're ignoring is the synchronize_sched() call at the end of
> synchronize_srcu(), which has been replaced with smp_mb(). The smp_mb()
> needs to pair against a memory barrier on the read side, and that memory
> barrier has to occur after srcu_read_lock() has incremented the counter
> and before the read-side critical section begins. Otherwise code in the
> critical section might leak out to before the counter is incremented.
Still I am not sure you are right. It is ok (I think) if the code in the
critical section leaks out to before the atomic_inc(). In fact this doesn't
differ from the case when srcu_read_lock() happens before synchronize_srcu()
starts. In that case synchronize_srcu() will wait until the critical section
is closed via srcu_read_unlock(). Because of synchronize_sched() synchronize_srcu()
can't miss the fact that the critical section is in progress, so it doesn't
matter if it leaks _before_.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-18 22:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-16 20:00 BUG: cpufreq notification broken Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 20:15 ` [patch] cpufreq: mark cpufreq_tsc() as core_initcall_sync Ingo Molnar
2006-11-16 20:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 22:03 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-16 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-17 3:06 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-17 6:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 9:29 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-17 18:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-18 0:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 19:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 21:00 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 21:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-18 22:13 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 22:46 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2006-11-19 20:12 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 21:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 17:19 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 17:58 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 19:39 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 20:13 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 21:39 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 7:39 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-20 20:01 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 20:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-21 20:54 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 22:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 16:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-21 19:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:26 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 23:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-22 2:17 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-22 17:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-26 22:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 21:10 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-28 1:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 19:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:22 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 17:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 17:56 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 19:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:40 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-22 18:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 21:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-22 0:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 18:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 7:15 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 17:55 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 20:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:21 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-18 19:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 19:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 19:27 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 0:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 4:33 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 4:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-18 5:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 19:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 20:21 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 20:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:09 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 21:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 22:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-20 5:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 21:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 21:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 22:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-23 14:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-23 20:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-23 21:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-23 21:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 4:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-24 18:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-24 20:04 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-24 20:47 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-24 21:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-25 3:24 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-25 17:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-25 22:06 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-26 21:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 5:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-27 16:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 16:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-29 19:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-29 20:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-29 23:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-30 0:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-17 2:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-16 20:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-11-16 21:20 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16 21:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-20 19:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 20:27 ` BUG: cpufreq notification broken Alan Stern
2006-11-16 21:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:26 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-16 21:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:56 ` Alan Stern
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