From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] cpufreq: mark cpufreq_tsc() as core_initcall_sync
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:04:41 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061121200441.GA341@oleg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0611201439350.7569-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On 11/20, Alan Stern wrote:
>
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> > So, if we have global A == B == 0,
> >
> > CPU_0 CPU_1
> >
> > A = 1; B = 2;
> > mb(); mb();
> > b = B; a = A;
> >
> > It could happen that a == b == 0, yes?
>
> Both CPUs execute their "mb" instructions. The mb forces each
> cache to wait until it receives an Acknowdgement for the
> Invalidate it sent.
>
> Both caches send an Acknowledgement message to the other. The
> mb instructions complete.
>
> "b = B" and "a = A" execute. The caches return A==0 and B==0
> because they haven't yet invalidated their cache lines.
>
> The reason the code failed is because the mb instructions didn't force
> the caches to wait until the Invalidate messages in their queues had been
> fully carried out (i.e., the lines had actually been invalidated).
However, from
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113435711112941
Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> 2. rmb() guarantees that any changes seen by the interconnect
> preceding the rmb() will be seen by any reads following the
> rmb().
>
> 3. mb() combines the guarantees made by rmb() and wmb().
Confused :(
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-21 20:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-16 20:00 BUG: cpufreq notification broken Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 20:15 ` [patch] cpufreq: mark cpufreq_tsc() as core_initcall_sync Ingo Molnar
2006-11-16 20:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 22:03 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-16 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-17 3:06 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-17 6:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 9:29 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-17 18:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-18 0:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 19:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 21:00 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 21:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-18 22:13 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 22:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 20:12 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 21:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 17:19 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 17:58 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 19:39 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 20:13 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 21:39 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 7:39 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-20 20:01 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 20:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:04 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2006-11-21 20:54 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 22:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 16:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-21 19:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:26 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 23:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-22 2:17 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-22 17:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-26 22:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 21:10 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-28 1:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 19:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:22 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 17:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 17:56 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 19:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:40 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-22 18:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 21:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-22 0:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 18:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 7:15 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 17:55 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 20:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:21 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-18 19:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 19:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 19:27 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 0:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 4:33 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 4:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-18 5:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 19:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 20:21 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 20:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:09 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 21:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 22:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-20 5:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 21:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 21:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 22:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-23 14:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-23 20:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-23 21:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-23 21:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 4:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-24 18:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-24 20:04 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-24 20:47 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-24 21:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-25 3:24 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-25 17:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-25 22:06 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-26 21:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 5:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-27 16:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 16:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-29 19:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-29 20:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-29 23:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-30 0:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-17 2:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-16 20:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-11-16 21:20 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16 21:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-20 19:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 20:27 ` BUG: cpufreq notification broken Alan Stern
2006-11-16 21:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:26 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-16 21:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:56 ` Alan Stern
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