From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] cpufreq: mark cpufreq_tsc() as core_initcall_sync
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:51:22 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061122005122.GL2013@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061121210105.GA381@oleg>
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 12:01:05AM +0300, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 11/21, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 12:56:21PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > Here's another potential problem with the fast path approach. It's not
> > > very serious, but you might want to keep it in mind.
> > >
> > > The idea is that a reader can start up on one CPU and finish on another,
> > > and a writer might see the finish event but not the start event. For
> > > example:
> >
> > One approach to get around this would be for the the "idx" returned from
> > srcu_read_lock() to keep track of the CPU as well as the index within
> > the CPU. This would require atomic_inc()/atomic_dec() on the fast path,
> > but would not add much to the overhead on x86 because the smp_mb() imposes
> > an atomic operation anyway. There would be little cache thrashing in the
> > case where there is no preemption -- but if the readers almost always sleep,
> > and where it is common for the srcu_read_unlock() to run on a different CPU
> > than the srcu_read_lock(), then the additional cache thrashing could add
> > significant overhead.
>
> If you are going to do this, it seems better to just forget about ->per_cpu_ref,
> and use only ->hardluckref[]. This also allows to avoid the polling in
> synchronize_srcu().
If the readers are reasonably rare, that could work. If readers are
common, you get memory contention (as well as cache thrashing) on the
->hardluckref[] elements. But putting this degree of cache thrashing
into SRCU certainly does not feel right.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-22 0:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-16 20:00 BUG: cpufreq notification broken Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 20:15 ` [patch] cpufreq: mark cpufreq_tsc() as core_initcall_sync Ingo Molnar
2006-11-16 20:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 22:03 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-16 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-17 3:06 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-17 6:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 9:29 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-17 18:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-18 0:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 19:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 21:00 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 21:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-18 22:13 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 22:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 20:12 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 21:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 17:19 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 17:58 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 19:39 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 20:13 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 21:39 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 7:39 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-20 20:01 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 20:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-21 20:54 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 22:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 16:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-21 19:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:26 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 23:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-22 2:17 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-22 17:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-26 22:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 21:10 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-28 1:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 19:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:22 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 17:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 17:56 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 19:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:40 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-22 18:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 21:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-22 0:51 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2006-11-18 18:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 7:15 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 17:55 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 20:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:21 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-18 19:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 19:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 19:27 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 0:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 4:33 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 4:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-18 5:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 19:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 20:21 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 20:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:09 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 21:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 22:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-20 5:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 21:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 21:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 22:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-23 14:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-23 20:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-23 21:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-23 21:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 4:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-24 18:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-24 20:04 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-24 20:47 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-24 21:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-25 3:24 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-25 17:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-25 22:06 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-26 21:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 5:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-27 16:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 16:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-29 19:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-29 20:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-29 23:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-30 0:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-17 2:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-16 20:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-11-16 21:20 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16 21:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-20 19:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 20:27 ` BUG: cpufreq notification broken Alan Stern
2006-11-16 21:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:26 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-16 21:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:56 ` Alan Stern
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