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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Ben Collins <ben.collins@ubuntu.com>
Cc: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Pushing device/driver binding decisions to userspace
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:29:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061123102928.GA22118@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1163395364.5178.327.camel@gullible>

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 09:22:44PM -0800, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:47 -0800, Nicholas Miell wrote:
> > On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:24 -0800, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 16:49 -0800, Nicholas Miell wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 15:39 -0800, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > What's wrong with making udev or whatever unbind driver A and then bind
> > > > driver B if the driver bound by the kernel ends up being the wrong
> > > > choice? (Besides the inelegance of the kernel choosing one and then
> > > > userspace immediately choosing the other, of course.)
> > > > 
> > > > I'd argue that having multiple drivers for the same hardware is a bit
> > > > strange to begin with, but that's another issue entirely.
> > > 
> > > If two drivers are loaded for the same device, there's no way for udev
> > > to tell the kernel which driver to use for a device, that I know of.
> > 
> > /sys/bus/*/drivers/*/{bind,unbind}
> 
> "bind" does not tell the driver core to "bind this device with this
> driver", it tells it to "bind this driver to whatever devices we match
> that aren't already bound".

No it does not, it tells the driver core to "bind this device with this
driver, _if_ the driver will accept it".

> That doesn't solve my use case.

Yes it does:
	echo -n BUS_ID > /sys/bus/foo_bus/drivers/foo_driver/unbind
	echo -n BUS_ID > /sys/bus/foo_bus/drivers/baz_driver/bind

and you are set.  That's the way other distros use this functionality :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-23 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-12 23:39 [RFC] Pushing device/driver binding decisions to userspace Ben Collins
2006-11-13  0:49 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-11-13  1:24   ` Ben Collins
2006-11-13  1:47     ` Nicholas Miell
2006-11-13  5:22       ` Ben Collins
2006-11-13  6:45         ` Nicholas Miell
2006-11-13  7:10           ` Ben Collins
2006-11-13  9:45             ` Martin Mares
2006-11-13 10:13             ` Xavier Bestel
2006-11-23 10:29         ` Greg KH [this message]
2006-11-23 11:40           ` Kay Sievers
2006-11-24  3:59             ` Greg KH
2006-11-13  7:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-13 18:51   ` Lee Revell
2006-11-13 20:18     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-13 22:16       ` Jim Crilly
2006-11-13 22:59         ` Lee Revell
2006-11-13 23:22           ` Jim Crilly
2006-11-13 23:45             ` Lee Revell
2006-11-14  1:14               ` Jim Crilly
2006-11-14  7:32         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-14 17:11           ` Jim Crilly

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