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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] cpufreq: mark cpufreq_tsc() as core_initcall_sync
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:11:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061127161106.GA279@oleg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061127050247.GC5021@us.ibm.com>

On 11/26, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> Looks pretty good, actually.  A few quibbles below.  I need to review
> again after sleeping on it.

Thanks! Please also look at spinlock-based implementation,

	http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=116457701231964

I must admit, Alan was right: it really looks simpler and the perfomance
penalty should be very low. I personally hate this additional spinlock
per se as a "unneeded complication", but probably you will like it more.

> > +int xxx_read_lock(struct xxx_struct *sp)
> > +{
> > +	for (;;) {
> > +		int idx = sp->completed & 0x1;
> 
> Might need a comment saying why no rcu_dereference() needed on the
> preceding line.  The reason (as I understand it) is that we are
> only doing atomic operations on the element being indexed.

My understanding is the same. Actually, smp_read_barrier_depends() can't
help because 'atomic_inc' and '->completed++' in synchronize_xxx() could
be re-ordered anyway, so we should rely on correctness of atomic_t.

> 
> > +		if (likely(atomic_inc_not_zero(sp->ctr + idx)))
> > +			return idx;
> > +	}
> > +}
> 
> The loop seems absolutely necessary if one wishes to avoid a
> synchronize_sched() in synchronize_xxx() below (and was one of the things
> I was missing earlier).  However, isn't there a possibility that a pile
> of synchronize_xxx() calls might indefinitely delay an unlucky reader?

Note that synchronize_xxx() does nothing when there are no readers under
xxx_read_lock(), so

	for (;;)
		synchronize_xxx();

can't suspend xxx_read_lock(). atomic_inc_not_zero() fails when something like
the events below happen between 'idx = sp->completed' and 'atomic_inc_not_zero'

	- another reader does xxx_read_lock(), increments ->ctr.

	- synchronize_xxx() notices it, goes to __wait_event()

	- both the reader and writer manage to do atomic_dec()

This is possible in theory, but indefinite delay... Look, we have the same
"problem" with spinlocks: in theory synchronize_xxx() calls might indefinitely
delay an unlucky reader because synchronize_xxx() always wins spin_lock(&sp->lock);

> > +
> > +void xxx_read_unlock(struct xxx_struct *sp, int idx)
> > +{
> > +	if (unlikely(atomic_dec_and_test(sp->ctr + idx)))
> > +		wake_up(&sp->wq);
> > +}
> > +
> > +void synchronize_xxx(struct xxx_struct *sp)
> > +{
> > +	int idx;
> > +
> > +	mutex_lock(&sp->mutex);
> > +
> > +	idx = sp->completed & 0x1;
> > +	if (!atomic_add_unless(sp->ctr + idx, -1, 1))
> > +		goto out;
> > +
> > +	atomic_inc(sp->ctr + (idx ^ 0x1));
> > +	sp->completed++;
> > +
> > +	__wait_event(sp->wq, !atomic_read(sp->ctr + idx));
> > +out:
> > +	mutex_unlock(&sp->mutex);
> > +}
> 
> Test code!!!  Very good!!!  (This is added to rcutorture, right?)

Yes, the whole patch goes to kernel/rcutorture.c, it is only for
testing/review.

Note: I suspect that Documentation/ lies about atomic_add_unless(), see

	http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=116448966030359

so synchronize_xxx() should be

	void synchronize_xxx(struct xxx_struct *sp)
	{
		int idx;

		smp_mb();
		mutex_lock(&sp->mutex);

		idx = sp->completed & 0x1;
		if (atomic_read(sp->ctr + idx) == 1)
			goto out;

		atomic_inc(sp->ctr + (idx ^ 0x1));
		sp->completed++;

		atomic_dec(sp->ctr + idx);
		wait_event(sp->wq, !atomic_read(sp->ctr + idx));
	out:
		mutex_unlock(&sp->mutex);
	}

Yes, Alan was right, spinlock_t makes the code simpler.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-27 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-16 20:00 BUG: cpufreq notification broken Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 20:15 ` [patch] cpufreq: mark cpufreq_tsc() as core_initcall_sync Ingo Molnar
2006-11-16 20:45   ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 22:03       ` Alan Stern
2006-11-16 22:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-17  3:06           ` Alan Stern
2006-11-17  6:51             ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17  9:29               ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-17 18:39                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-18  0:28                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 16:15                     ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 17:14                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 19:34                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:26                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 21:00                         ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 21:25                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-18 22:13                             ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 22:46                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 20:12                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 21:43                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 17:19                             ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 17:58                               ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 19:39                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 20:13                                   ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 21:39                                     ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21  7:39                                       ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 18:57                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-20 20:01                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 20:51                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:04                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-21 20:54                                     ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 22:07                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:38                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 16:44                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-21 19:56                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:26                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 23:03                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-22  2:17                                           ` Alan Stern
2006-11-22 17:01                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-26 22:25                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 21:10                                   ` Alan Stern
2006-11-28  1:47                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 19:17                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:22                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 17:55                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 17:56                             ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 19:13                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:40                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-22 18:08                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 21:01                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-22  0:51                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 18:46                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:07                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20  7:15                         ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 16:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 17:55                             ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 20:09                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:21                                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-18 19:02                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:23                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 19:15                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 19:27                   ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18  0:38                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18  4:33                       ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18  4:51                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-18  5:57                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 19:00                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 20:21                   ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 20:55                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:09                       ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 21:17                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:54                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 22:28                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-20  5:47                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 21:20                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 21:50                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 22:04                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-23 14:59                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-23 20:40                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-23 21:34                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-23 21:49                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27  4:33                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-24 18:21                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-24 20:04                       ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-24 20:47                       ` Alan Stern
2006-11-24 21:13                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-25  3:24                           ` Alan Stern
2006-11-25 17:14                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-25 22:06                               ` Alan Stern
2006-11-26 21:34                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27  5:02                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-27 16:11                         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2006-11-27 16:56                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-29 19:29                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-29 20:16                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-29 23:08                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-30  0:01                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-17  2:33       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-16 20:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-11-16 21:20   ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16 21:27     ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-20 19:57   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 20:27 ` BUG: cpufreq notification broken Alan Stern
2006-11-16 21:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:26     ` Alan Stern
2006-11-16 21:36       ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:56         ` Alan Stern

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