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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/38] KVM: Create kvm-intel.ko module
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:19:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061130201935.GA14696@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061130115957.c3761331.akpm@osdl.org>


* Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:

> It's a fat, complex, presumably arch-specific, presumably 
> frequently-changing API.  So whatever we do will be unpleasant - 
> that's unavoidable in this case, I suspect.
> 
> (hmm, the interface isn't versioned at present - should it be?)
> 
> Maybe, perhaps, one day it _should_ be a syscall API.  But right now 
> if we did that it would become a versioned syscall API with obsolete 
> slots and various other warts.

yeah, very much agreed. For example the paravirtualization/accelerator 
downcalls/upcalls in KVM dont exist yet, so there's little to 
standardize. Once we see it from lhype & KVM how these things look like 
we can design a sane kernel interface around it. But i'm against the 
notion that KVM is 'just' a device. It's not, and it /will/ grow into 
something fundamental.

> I get the feeling we'd be best off if we were to revisit this in a 
> year or so.

yeah. I'd suggest merging it as-is into v2.6.20. In a year we'll have 
some real APIs to think about.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-30 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-27 12:10 [PATCH 0/38] KVM: Decouple Intel VT implementation from base kvm Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:11 ` [PATCH 1/38] KVM: Create kvm-intel.ko module Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:36   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 14:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-11-30 15:44       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 19:59         ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-30 20:19           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-11-30 20:24             ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-11-30 20:31               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-27 12:12 ` [PATCH 2/38] KVM: Make /dev/registration happen when the arch specific module is loaded Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:13 ` [PATCH 0/38] KVM: Decouple Intel VT implementation from base kvm Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:13 ` [PATCH 3/38] KV: Make hardware detection an arch operation Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:14 ` [PATCH 4/38] KVM: Make the per-cpu enable/disable functions arch operations Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:15 ` [PATCH 5/38] KVM: Make the hardware setup operations (non-percpu) " Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:16 ` [PATCH 6/38] KVM: Make the guest debugger an arch operation Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:17 ` [PATCH 7/38] KVM: Make msr accessors arch operations Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:18 ` [PATCH 8/38] KVM: Make the segment " Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:19 ` [PATCH 9/38] KVM: Cache guest cr4 in vcpu structure Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:20 ` [PATCH 10/38] KVM: Cache guest cr0 " Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:21 ` [PATCH 11/38] KVM: Add get_segment_base() arch accessor Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:22 ` [PATCH 12/38] KVM: Add idt and gdt descriptor accessors Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:23 ` [PATCH 13/38] KVM: Make syncing the register file to the vcpu structure an arch operation Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:24 ` [PATCH 14/38] KVM: Make the vcpu execution loop " Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:25 ` [PATCH 15/38] KVM: Move the vmx exit handlers to vmx.c Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:26 ` [PATCH 16/38] KVM: Make vcpu_setup() an arch operation Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:27 ` [PATCH 17/38] KVM: Make __set_cr0() (and dependencies) arch operations Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:28 ` [PATCH 18/38] KVM: Make __set_cr4() an arch operation Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:29 ` [PATCH 19/38] KVM: Make __set_efer() " Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 13:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-11-27 13:46     ` Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:30 ` [PATCH 20/38] KVM: Make set_cr3() and tlb flushing arch operations Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:31 ` [PATCH 21/38] KVM: Make inject_page_fault() an arch operation Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:32 ` [PATCH 22/38] KVM: Make inject_gp() " Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:33 ` [PATCH 23/38] KVM: Use the idt and gdt accessors in realmode emulation Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:34 ` [PATCH 24/38] KVM: Use the general purpose register accessors rather than direct access Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:35 ` [PATCH 25/38] KVM: Move the vmx tsc accessors to vmx.c Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:36 ` [PATCH 26/38] KVM: Access rflags through an arch operation Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:37 ` [PATCH 27/38] KVM: Move the vmx segment field definitions to vmx.c Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:38 ` [PATCH 28/38] KVM: Add an arch accessor for cs d/b and l bits Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:39 ` [PATCH 29/38] KVM: Add a set_cr0_no_modeswitch() arch accessor Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:40 ` [PATCH 30/38] KVM: Make vcpu_load() and vcpu_put() arch operations Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:41 ` [PATCH 31/38] KVM: Make vcpu creation and destruction " Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:42 ` [PATCH 32/38] KVM: Move vmcs static variables to vmx.c Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 33/38] KVM: Make is_long_mode() an arch operation Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:44 ` [PATCH 34/38] KVM: Use the tlb flush arch operation instead of an inline Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:45 ` [PATCH 35/38] KVM: Remove guest_cpl() Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:46 ` [PATCH 36/38] KVM: Move vmcs accessors to vmx.c Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:47 ` [PATCH 37/38] KVM: Move vmx helper inlines " Avi Kivity
2006-11-27 12:48 ` [PATCH 38/38] KVM: Remove vmx includes from arch independent code Avi Kivity

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