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From: Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
Cc: Matt Garman <matthew.garman@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What happened to CONFIG_TCP_NAGLE_OFF?
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 00:00:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061201000030.1d8ba600@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <456F34BE.5050303@cfl.rr.com>

> No, nagle was invented specifically for telnet.  Without nagle, every 

No it was general purpose. It fixes some extremely bad behaviour in TCP
with congestion well beyond the "telnet" behaviour.

> Things like mouse movements should not be sent over TCP at all.  UDP 
> makes a much better protocol for that kind of data since if a packet is 

UDP is rarely appropriate because it has no congestion control. There are
more appropriate protocols but they are rarely implemented so TCP
generally gets used.

> lost, there is no need to retransmit the same data; instead you just get 
> the next position update and don't care about where the mouse was during 
> the dropped packet.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-30 23:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-28 22:05 What happened to CONFIG_TCP_NAGLE_OFF? Matt Garman
2006-11-29 20:06 ` Phillip Susi
2006-11-30 17:21   ` Matt Garman
2006-11-30 19:12     ` John Stoffel
2006-11-30 19:45     ` Phillip Susi
2006-12-01  0:00       ` Alan [this message]
2006-12-01 20:42         ` Phillip Susi
2006-12-02  3:29           ` Herbert Xu
2006-12-04 15:35             ` Phillip Susi

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