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From: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
	davej@redhat.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com, vatsa@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: CPUFREQ-CPUHOTPLUG: Possible circular locking dependency
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:13:13 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061201014313.GA25074@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061130082934.GB29609@elte.hu>

On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 09:29:34AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> what lockdep does is it observes actual locking dependencies as they
> happen individually in various contexts, and then 'completes' the
> dependency graph by combining all the possible scenarios how contexts
> might preempt each other. So if lockdep sees independent dependencies
> and concludes that they are circular, there's nothing that saves us from
> the deadlock.

Ingo,

Consider a case where we have three locks A, B and C.
We have very clear locking rule inside the kernel that lock A *should*
be acquired before acquiring either lock B or lock C.

At runtime lockdep detects the two dependency chains,
A --> B --> C

and

A --> C --> B.

Does lockdep issue a circular dependency warning for this ? 
It's quite clear from the locking rule that we cannot have a
circular deadlock, since A acts as a mutex for B->C / C->B callpath.

Just curious :-) [ Well, I might encounter such a scenario in an attempt
		   to make cpufreq cpu-hotplug safe! ]

> 	Ingo

Thanks and Regards
gautham.
-- 
Gautham R Shenoy
Linux Technology Center
IBM India.
"Freedom comes with a price tag of responsibility, which is still a bargain,
because Freedom is priceless!"

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-12-01  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-29 15:24 CPUFREQ-CPUHOTPLUG: Possible circular locking dependency Gautham R Shenoy
2006-11-29 21:05 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-30  4:28   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-11-30  6:35     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-11-30  8:29       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30  8:52         ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-12-01  1:43         ` Gautham R Shenoy [this message]
2006-12-01  8:55           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30  8:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 10:24   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-11-30 11:03     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 11:19       ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-30 11:46         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 12:44           ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-11-30 14:35             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 19:40           ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-30 20:24             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 11:43       ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-11-30 11:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 12:19           ` Gautham R Shenoy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-12-06 18:27 Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2006-12-07  7:06 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-12-07 12:50 Pallipadi, Venkatesh

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