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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PATCH? rcu_do_batch: fix a pure theoretical memory ordering race
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 23:01:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061203200153.GA107@oleg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45730AAD.1050006@cosmosbay.com>

On 12/03, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov a ?crit :
> >On top of rcu-add-a-prefetch-in-rcu_do_batch.patch
> >
> >rcu_do_batch:
> >
> >	struct rcu_head *next, *list;
> >
> >	while (list) {
> >		next = list->next;	<------ [1]
> >		list->func(list);
> >		list = next;
> >	}
> >
> >We can't trust *list after list->func() call, that is why we load 
> >list->next
> >beforehand. However I suspect in theory this is not enough, suppose that
> >
> >	- [1] is stalled
> >
> >	- list->func() marks *list as unused in some way
> >
> >	- another CPU re-uses this rcu_head and dirties it
> >
> >	- [1] completes and gets a wrong result
> >
> >This means we need a barrier in between. mb() looks more suitable, but I 
> >think
> >rmb() should suffice.
> >
> 
> Well, hopefully the "list->func()" MUST do the right thing [*], so your 
> patch is not necessary.

Yes, I don't claim it is necessary, note the "pure theoretical".

> For example, most structures are freed with kfree()/kmem_cache_free() and 
> these functions MUST imply an smp_mb() [if/when exchanging data with other 
> cpus], or else many uses in the kernel should be corrected as well.

Yes, mb() is enough (wmb() isn't) and kfree()/kmem_cache_free() are ok.
And I don't know any example of "unsafe" code in that sense.

However I believe it is easy to make the code which is correct from the
RCU's API pov, but unsafe.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-03 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-02 21:25 PATCH? rcu_do_batch: fix a pure theoretical memory ordering race Oleg Nesterov
2006-12-03 17:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-12-03 20:01   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2006-12-03 20:34     ` Eric Dumazet
2006-12-03 22:12       ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-12-03 23:08         ` Eric Dumazet
2006-12-03 23:46           ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-12-04 16:43 ` Paul E. McKenney

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