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From: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
To: Ben Nizette <ben.nizette@iinet.net.au>
Cc: Matthias Schniedermeyer <ms@citd.de>,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	DervishD <lkml@dervishd.net>
Subject: Re: single bit errors on files stored on USB-HDDs via USB2/usb_storage
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 09:18:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200612090918.26508.oliver@neukum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <457A5384.9070806@iinet.net.au>

Am Samstag, 9. Dezember 2006 07:11 schrieb Ben Nizette:
> >>> Also, you mentioned that the corruption occurs systematically on certain
> >>> byte patterns. Therefore it's certainly not related to the cables.
> >> It'd guess that too, but who can that say for sure. :-|
> > 
> > You may have a bit pattern that stresses the controllers and suddenly
> > a marginal cable may matter.
> 
> The errors occur in strings of 0xFFs.  From the USB standard:
> 
> a “1” is represented by no change in level and a “0” is represented by a 
> change in level

Yes, plus added stuffing bits.

> so this error-infested bytes are effectively long, quiet times on the 
> wire.  I would have thought this would be the _least_ stressful time for 
> the controllers but maybe they are also more susceptible to noise during 
> this period.

The longer you don't change the voltage the likelier are reciever and
transmitter to get out of sync.

	Regards
		Oliver

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-09  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa./xvi+/Ji/HqNkvnGjUt4pIS9goM@ifi.uio.no>
2006-12-07  0:02 ` single bit errors on files stored on USB-HDDs via USB2/usb_storage Robert Hancock
2006-12-07  9:03   ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
     [not found] ` <fa.nPT9ZJ5poT8fZx3aWy0MqRK/gto@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.aML3aAeWqfac08XNpQa7Zu0AC8w@ifi.uio.no>
2006-12-08  3:18     ` Robert Hancock
2006-12-08  9:07       ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2006-12-08 10:25         ` Stefan Richter
2006-12-08 10:39           ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2006-12-08 11:01             ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-08 12:27               ` Stefan Richter
2006-12-09  6:11               ` Ben Nizette
2006-12-09  8:18                 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2006-12-09 10:16                   ` Ben Nizette
2006-12-10  8:44 linux
2006-12-10 15:37 ` Clemens Koller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-12-07 18:08 [usb-storage] " Alan Stern
2006-12-07 19:41 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2006-12-07 23:45   ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-12-08  9:16     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2006-12-08 12:21       ` Stefan Richter
2006-12-08 16:18         ` John Stoffel
2006-12-06 22:01 Matthias Schniedermeyer
2006-12-07 22:10 ` DervishD
2006-12-07 22:57   ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2006-12-07 23:05     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-08  9:32     ` DervishD

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