From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Myron Stowe <myron.stowe@hp.com>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Dipankar <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
Gautham shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: workqueue deadlock
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 00:43:18 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061210004318.8e1ef324.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061210082616.GB14057@elte.hu>
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:26:16 +0100
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> * Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:
>
> > > > Could do, not sure. I'm planning on converting all the locking
> > > > around here to preempt_disable() though.
> > >
> > > please at least use an owner-recursive per-CPU lock,
> >
> > a wot?
>
> something like the pseudocode further below - when applied to a data
> structure it has semantics and scalability close to that of
> preempt_disable(), but it is still preemptible and the lock is specific.
>
> > > not a naked preempt_disable()! The concurrency rules for data
> > > structures changed via preempt_disable() are quite hard to sort out
> > > after the fact. (preempt_disable() is too opaque,
> >
> > preempt_disable() is the preferred way of holding off cpu hotplug.
>
> well, preempt_disable() is the scheduler's internal mechanism to keep
> tasks from being preempted. It is fast but it also has non-nice
> side-effect:
>
> 1) nothing tells us what the connection between preempt-disable and data
> structure is. If we let preempt_disable() spread then we'll end up
> with a situation like the BKL: all preempt_disable() sections become
> one big blob of code with hard-to-define specifications, and if we
> take out code from that blob stuff mysteriously breaks.
Well we can add some suitably-named wrapper around preempt_disable() to make
it obvious why we're calling it. But I haven't noticed any such problem with
existing usages.
> void cpu_hotplug_lock(void)
> {
> int cpu = raw_smp_processor_id();
> /*
> * Interrupts/softirqs are hotplug-safe:
> */
> if (in_interrupt())
> return;
> if (current->hotplug_depth++)
> return;
> current->hotplug_lock = &per_cpu(hotplug_lock, cpu);
> mutex_lock(current->hotplug_lock);
> }
That's functionally equivalent to what we have now, and it isn't working
too well.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-10 8:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-07 0:26 workqueue deadlock Bjorn Helgaas
2006-12-07 6:17 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-12-07 6:45 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-12-07 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-07 19:37 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-08 2:53 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-12-08 4:54 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-08 7:58 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-12-09 10:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-09 19:47 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-10 8:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-10 8:43 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-12-10 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-10 12:16 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-10 12:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-10 12:34 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-11 6:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-10 14:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-12-11 6:52 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-12-11 16:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-12-11 5:45 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-12-11 6:03 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-11 4:58 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
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