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From: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Andrew MChuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds orton <akpm@osdl.org>" <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] pipe: Don't oops when pipe filesystem isn't mounted
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:03:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061211100301.GD4587@ftp.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061211014727.21c4ab25.akpm@osdl.org>

On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 01:47:27AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> - populate_rootfs() puts stuff into the filesystem
> 
> - we then run initcalls.
> 
> - an initcall runs /sbin/hotplug.
> 
> We're now running userspace before all the initcalls have been executed. 
> Hence we're trying to run userspace when potentially none of "grep
> _initcall */*.c" has been executed.  It isn't a kernel yet...

That's... arguable.  We certainly don't need lots and lots of initcalls
to be able to run userland code.  Which ones are missing in your opinion?

As for that example, I'd love to see specifics - which driver triggers
hotplug?  Presumably it happens from an initcall, so we also have something
fishy here...

Said that, I think that pipes should be initialized early.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-11 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-11  8:27 [patch] pipe: Don't oops when pipe filesystem isn't mounted Chuck Ebbert
2006-12-11  8:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-11  9:13   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-11  9:21     ` Al Viro
2006-12-11  9:25       ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-11  9:33         ` Al Viro
2006-12-11  9:47           ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-11 10:03             ` Al Viro [this message]
2006-12-11 10:17               ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-11 10:22                 ` Al Viro
2006-12-11 10:34                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-11 10:47                     ` Al Viro
2006-12-11 10:57                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-11 10:27                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-11 10:45                   ` Al Viro
2006-12-11 16:01                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-11 16:12                       ` Al Viro
2006-12-11 16:40                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-12  0:33                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-12  2:08                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-12  2:17                         ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-12-12  2:23                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-11 10:52                 ` [PATCH] get rid of ARCH_HAVE_XTIME_LOCK Eric Dumazet
2006-12-11 13:50                   ` [PATCH] Optimize calc_load() Eric Dumazet
2006-12-11 19:04                     ` [PATCH] constify pipe_buf_operations Eric Dumazet
2006-12-11  9:13 ` [patch] pipe: Don't oops when pipe filesystem isn't mounted Al Viro
2006-12-11  9:40   ` Michael Tokarev
2006-12-11 15:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-12 12:20   ` Michael Tokarev
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-12-11  9:33 Chuck Ebbert
2006-12-11 10:48 ` Olaf Hering
2006-12-11 10:52   ` Al Viro

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