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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@argo.co.il>
Cc: Hans-J?rgen Koch <hjk@linutronix.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Userspace I/O driver core
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:00:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061214180008.GA24568@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45812C17.4090309@argo.co.il>

On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 12:48:55PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> [why trim the cc?]
> 
> Hans-J?rgen Koch wrote:
> >Am Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2006 10:44 schrieb Avi Kivity:
> >
> >  
> >>I understand one still has to write a kernel driver to shut up the irq.  
> >>How about writing a small bytecode interpreter to make event than 
> >>unnecessary?
> >>
> >>The userspace driver would register a couple of bytecode programs: 
> >>is_interrupt_pending() and disable_interrupt(), which the uio framework 
> >>would call when the interrupt fires.
> >>
> >>The bytecode could reuse net/core/filter.c, with the packet replaced by 
> >>the mmio or ioregion, or use something new.
> >>
> >>    
> >
> >I think this would be overkill. The kernel module you have to write
> >is _really_ very simple. And it has to be written only once, so even
> >a manufacturer who employs no experienced kernel developers can
> >easily outsource that task.
> >
> >  
> 
> It has to be written once, but compiled for every kernel version and 
> $arch out there (for out of tree drivers), or it has to wait for the 
> next kernel release and distro sync (for in-tree drivers).

No, just get the tiny driver into the main kernel tree, like all other
drivers are required to do.

> If we make userspace drivers possible, it makes sense that the entire 
> driver be in userspace, not just 98.7% of it.

If you see a way to do this that is race-free, I know a lot of people
would be glad to see such a patch.

But until then, no, we are not making any such claims of 100% userspace
driver for hardware such as pci devices and other things that this uio
core works with.

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-12-14 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-14  1:06 Userspace I/O driver core Greg KH
2006-12-14  5:48 ` Ben Nizette
2006-12-14  9:44 ` Avi Kivity
2006-12-14 10:19   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-14 10:46     ` Avi Kivity
2006-12-14 10:54       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-14 10:56         ` Avi Kivity
2006-12-14 17:54           ` Greg KH
2006-12-16 14:48     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2006-12-14 10:25   ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-14 10:48     ` Avi Kivity
2006-12-14 12:39       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 13:38         ` Avi Kivity
2006-12-14 17:48           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 18:00       ` Greg KH [this message]
2006-12-14 10:52 ` Alan
2006-12-14 11:22   ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-14 11:39     ` Alan
2006-12-14 11:37       ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-14 12:45         ` Alan
2006-12-14 12:37 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 16:10 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-12-14 21:55   ` Ben Nizette

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