From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: James Porter <jameslporter@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Binary Drivers
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:08:21 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061216080821.GA4049@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20061215T220806-362@post.gmane.org>
Hi!
> I think some kernel developers take to much responsibility, is there a bug in a
> binary driver? Send it upstream and explain to the user that it's a closed
> source driver and is up to said company to fix it.
ANd deal with users screaming at you 'I'm sure nvidia is not a problem
because it dies when I use suspend, but is rock solid otherwise'?
> Just because nvidia makes a closed source driver doesn't mean that we can't also
> create an open source driver(limited functionality, reverse engineered,
> etc.,etc.). I firmly believe that the choice should be up to the user and/or
> distro. I'm not a kernel dev, I don't know c...but I understand the concepts and
So you can't write code...
> work(patents?, gotta love those). Personally I think nvidia has excellent
> support for linux, I have actually convinced people to use linux(desktop and
> server) just by showing them beryl with the nvidia beta drivers.
...still you convince people to use code noone is going to fix? Sweet!
Pavel
--
Thanks for all the (sleeping) penguins.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-16 8:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-15 21:20 Binary Drivers James Porter
2006-12-15 21:59 ` Alan
2006-12-15 22:00 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 14:31 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-12-15 22:01 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-12-16 1:57 ` Tomas Carnecky
2006-12-16 18:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 14:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 16:33 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 17:43 ` Erik Mouw
2006-12-21 19:10 ` Tomas Carnecky
[not found] ` <f0e2c5070612211120wa6e3402p2ffb6e1d579a485a@mail.gmail.com>
2006-12-21 19:42 ` Tomas Carnecky
2006-12-21 22:36 ` Dave Neuer
2006-12-21 20:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 20:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-21 22:02 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 20:50 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-21 20:58 ` David Lang
2006-12-21 21:20 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-21 22:12 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-21 23:20 ` Martin Mares
2006-12-22 0:38 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22 9:47 ` Wolfgang Draxinger
2006-12-23 1:04 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-16 3:56 ` jdow
2006-12-16 4:59 ` Dave Airlie
2006-12-16 8:12 ` Horses and donkeys [Re: Binary Drivers] Pavel Machek
2006-12-16 18:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-17 11:44 ` Binary Drivers Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-16 8:08 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-12-16 9:07 ` Marek Wawrzyczny
2006-12-17 12:17 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-12-18 21:34 ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Hannu Savolainen
2006-12-19 0:10 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-12-20 22:06 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2006-12-21 0:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-12-21 10:17 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-12-21 18:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22 11:59 ` Erik Mouw
2006-12-24 6:35 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-31 12:41 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-12-31 13:03 ` Trent Waddington
2006-12-31 17:09 ` Alan
2007-01-02 2:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 4:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 5:06 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 6:30 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-02 9:40 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 11:26 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-02 12:06 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 19:23 ` Horst H. von Brand
2007-01-03 8:59 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-01-02 12:50 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-02 13:22 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-01-02 15:15 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 15:18 ` Jens Axboe
2007-01-02 16:33 ` James Simmons
2007-01-02 17:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02 20:20 ` David Weinehall
2007-01-02 19:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-01-02 20:01 ` OT Coffee (was " Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-02 20:17 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-01-02 23:01 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-03 5:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-04 0:50 ` David Schwartz
2007-01-02 21:11 ` Neil Brown
2007-01-02 22:26 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-02 19:04 ` [OT] Hot coffee (was: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers)) Steven Rostedt
2007-01-02 10:40 ` Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Alan
2006-12-18 9:51 ` Binary Drivers Bernd Petrovitsch
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2006-12-21 12:33 ` Nikolaos D. Bougalis
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2006-12-21 21:15 Niklas Steinkamp
2006-12-22 19:22 ` Rok Markovic
2006-12-22 22:00 ` Wolfgang Draxinger
2006-12-22 22:14 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-23 7:19 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-23 23:11 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-24 6:46 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-24 13:31 ` Wolfgang Draxinger
2006-12-24 17:33 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-24 19:27 ` James C Georgas
2006-12-24 21:05 ` Rok Markovic
2006-12-25 0:09 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-24 20:20 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-25 0:30 ` Wolfgang Draxinger
2006-12-26 0:20 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-26 2:49 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-26 6:31 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-26 19:20 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-26 19:53 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-27 1:20 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-28 13:32 ` Pavel Machek
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2006-12-22 21:27 ` Robert Hancock
2006-12-22 23:15 ` Nikolaos D. Bougalis
2006-12-26 11:13 Martin Knoblauch
2006-12-26 11:33 ` Trent Waddington
2006-12-26 14:04 ` Martin Knoblauch
2006-12-26 11:20 Martin Knoblauch
2006-12-26 13:28 ` James C Georgas
2006-12-26 13:57 ` Martin Knoblauch
2006-12-26 16:37 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-28 8:59 ` Rok Markovic
2006-12-28 9:07 ` Trent Waddington
2006-12-28 22:32 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-28 22:34 ` David Lang
2006-12-26 19:12 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-26 23:37 ` Horst H. von Brand
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[not found] ` <7wu47-3dV-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-12-27 11:55 ` Nikolaos D. Bougalis
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