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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 00/10] Kernel memory leak detector 0.13
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:21:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061218112120.GA7599@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b0943d9e0612180228w142a7375obf33a0f42d1982ae@mail.gmail.com>


* Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> [...] It could be so simple that it would never need to free any
> >> pages, just grow the size as required and reuse the freed memleak
> >> objects from a list.
> >
> >sounds good to me. Please make it a per-CPU pool.
> 
> Isn't there a risk for the pools to become imbalanced? A lot of 
> allocations would initially happen on the first CPU.

hm, what's the problem with imbalance? These are trees and imbalance 
isnt a big issue.

> >[...] (Add a memleak_object->cpu pointer so that freeing can be done 
> >on any other CPU as well.)
> 
> We could add the freed objects to the CPU pool where they were freed 
> and not use a memleak_object->cpu pointer.

i mean totally per-CPU locking and per-CPU radix trees, etc.

> > We'll have to fix the locking too, to be per-CPU - memleak_lock is 
> > quite a scalability problem right now.
> 
> The memleak_lock is indeed too coarse (but it was easier to track the 
> locking dependencies). With a new allocator, however, I could do a 
> finer grain locking. It probably still needs a (rw)lock for the hash 
> table. Having per-CPU hash tables is inefficient as we would have to 
> look up all the tables at every freeing or scanning for the 
> corresponding memleak_object.

at freeing we only have to look up the tree belonging to object->cpu. 
Scanning overhead does not matter in comparison to runtime tracking 
overhead. (but i doubt it would be much different - scanning overhead 
scales with size of tree)

> There is a global object_list as well covered by memleak_lock (only 
> for insertions/deletions as traversing is RCU). [...]

yeah, that would have to become per-CPU too.

> [...] List insertion/deletion is very small compared to the hash-table 
> look-up and it wouldn't introduce a scalability problem.

it's a common misconception to think that 'small' critical sections are 
fine. That's not the issue. The pure fact of having globally modified 
resource is the problem, the lock cacheline would ping-pong, etc.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-18 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-16 15:34 [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 00/10] Kernel memory leak detector 0.13 Catalin Marinas
2006-12-16 15:34 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 01/10] Base support for kmemleak Catalin Marinas
2006-12-16 15:34 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 02/10] Kmemleak documentation Catalin Marinas
2006-12-16 15:34 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 03/10] Add the memory allocation/freeing hooks for kmemleak Catalin Marinas
2006-12-16 15:34 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 04/10] Modules support " Catalin Marinas
2006-12-16 15:35 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 05/10] Add kmemleak support for i386 Catalin Marinas
2006-12-16 15:35 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 06/10] Add kmemleak support for ARM Catalin Marinas
2006-12-16 15:35 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 07/10] Remove some of the kmemleak false positives Catalin Marinas
2006-12-16 15:35 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 08/10] Keep the __init functions after initialization Catalin Marinas
2006-12-16 15:35 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 09/10] Testing module for kmemleak Catalin Marinas
2006-12-16 15:36 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 10/10] Update the MAINTAINERS file " Catalin Marinas
2006-12-16 16:57 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc1 00/10] Kernel memory leak detector 0.13 Ingo Molnar
2006-12-16 23:39   ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-17  8:58     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-17  9:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-17  9:28         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-17  9:41           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-17  9:49             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-17 12:05             ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-27 16:14             ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-27 16:23               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-27 16:30                 ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-27 16:47               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-27 16:56                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-27 17:02                 ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-17 11:58           ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-17 13:28             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-17 11:09       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-12-17 23:05       ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-18  7:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-18 10:28           ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-18 11:21             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-12-18 12:26               ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-18 19:56                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-19  9:36                   ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-27 13:52           ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-27 15:08             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-27 17:30               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-28  0:15                 ` Catalin Marinas
2006-12-28  9:44                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-28 11:50                     ` Catalin Marinas

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