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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, david-b@pacbell.net, gregkh@suse.de
Subject: Re: Changes to sysfs PM layer break userspace
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:08:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061219200803.GA14332@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1166558602.3365.1271.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 09:03:21PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:

> humm shouldn't the driver do this when the interface is brought down?
> sounds like you're playing with fire to do this behind the drivers'
> back....

I'm not sure. Suspending the chip means you lose things like link beat 
detection, so it's not something you necessarily want to automatically 
tie to something like interface status. Some chips support more 
fine-grained power management, so we could do something more sensible in 
that case - but right now, there doesn't seem to be a lot of driver 
support for it.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-19 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-19 18:52 Changes to sysfs PM layer break userspace Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 19:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-19 19:44   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 20:03     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-19 20:08       ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2006-12-19 20:23         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-19 20:32           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 20:55             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-21  0:08               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-12-19 21:34             ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  0:25               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  3:59                 ` Changes to " David Brownell
2006-12-20  4:26                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  5:14                     ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  5:34                       ` Greg KH
2006-12-20  5:52                         ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  7:50                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 12:53                             ` Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 13:38                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 14:31                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 15:51                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 22:49                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-20 23:37                                       ` Rick Jones
2006-12-19 23:51                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21  0:11                                       ` Francois Romieu
2006-12-20  0:26                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21 11:18                                           ` Francois Romieu
2006-12-21  1:12                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  2:05                                         ` Michael Wu
2006-12-21  2:18                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  2:38                                             ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  2:45                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:08                                                 ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  3:25                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:37                                                     ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:29                                                   ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:14                                             ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 13:14                                               ` jamal
2006-12-21  2:29                                         ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  2:10                                     ` Jesse Brandeburg
2006-12-21  8:54                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-22  1:03                                   ` Herbert Xu
2006-12-23  8:54                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-20 15:27                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-20 15:34                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 16:40                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-20 17:21                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 20:40                                         ` Benny Amorsen
2006-12-20 21:49                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 21:15                                     ` Stefan Rompf
2006-12-20 14:00                               ` Jiri Benc
2006-12-20 18:12                                 ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  1:15                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  1:57                                     ` Michael Wu
2006-12-21  2:20                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:02                                         ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:06                                     ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:14                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:32                                         ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 13:19                                           ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2006-12-21 17:16                                             ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 18:27                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22  1:25                                         ` Matt Domsch
2006-12-20 16:04                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2006-12-22 21:09                       ` Changes to PM layer break userspace Pavel Machek
2006-12-24  7:02                         ` David Brownell
2006-12-28 13:31                           ` Alan
2006-12-28 16:04                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29  5:27                             ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  2:15               ` Changes to sysfs " Andrew Morton
2006-12-20  2:35                 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-12-20  3:49                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-20  3:29                 ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  3:51                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-21  4:56                     ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  5:02                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-21  7:05                         ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  8:27                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-22 20:44     ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-23 14:02       ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-12-19 21:22 ` David Brownell
2006-12-19 22:57   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 23:36     ` Changes to " David Brownell
2006-12-20  0:09       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  3:19         ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  3:43           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  4:15             ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  4:56               ` [PATCH 1/2] Fix /sys/device/.../power/state Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 21:18                 ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  1:29                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:04                     ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  4:06                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  4:51                         ` David Brownell
2007-01-25  5:00                         ` [PATCH] Fix /sys/device/.../power/state regression Matthew Garrett
2007-01-26 19:59                           ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-26 20:42                             ` Greg KH
2007-01-27  1:26                               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-27 17:19                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-26 20:41                           ` Greg KH
2007-01-26 21:56                             ` David Brownell
2007-01-26 22:19                               ` Greg KH
2007-01-26 23:15                               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-27  0:42                                 ` David Brownell
2007-01-27  0:56                                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-27  2:40                                     ` David Brownell
2007-01-27 17:38                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-27 22:42                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-31 10:34                                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-27  1:19                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-27  3:02                                     ` David Brownell
2007-01-29 17:36                                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-27 13:17                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-30 18:43                             ` Eric Piel
2007-01-30 18:47                               ` Oliver Neukum
2007-01-30 19:01                                 ` Eric Piel
2007-01-31 10:55                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-01-31 11:03                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-20  4:56               ` [PATCH 2/2] Update feature-removal-schedule.txt Matthew Garrett
2006-12-22 20:47         ` Changes to PM layer break userspace Pavel Machek

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