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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@suse.de
Subject: Re: Changes to sysfs PM layer break userspace
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:05:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200612202305.57791.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061220210214.f9b94889.akpm@osdl.org>

On Wednesday 20 December 2006 9:02 pm, Andrew Morton wrote:

> > ... see my original reply in this thread.  If "the answer" is
> > to involve making PCI devices work again, better solutions include reverting
> > the patch I mentioned (adding the suspend_late/resume_early support to PCI)
> > or a version of what Matthew has produced (poking through bus layers so
> > that test can be made to fail when the bus supports those methods but the
> > specific device's driver doesn't use them).
> > 
> 
> We appear to have a choice of three options.  But I see no fix in Greg's
> tree.  Please let's not just accidentally forget to do this.

Plus the fourth "leave it be" option, which I guess you're voting against.
Of those options, I'd go for something like Matthew's patch to add a new
layer-punching hook.  (I'll look at his latest tomorrow, and do something
appropriate with it.)

It's interesting that there was no evident motion on these network PM
issues after the OLS (and then netdev) discussion last summer ... but
there is now much more active discussion.  Evidently PM issues are still
ignored until a fire gets set.

- Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-21  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-19 18:52 Changes to sysfs PM layer break userspace Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 19:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-19 19:44   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 20:03     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-19 20:08       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 20:23         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-19 20:32           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 20:55             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-21  0:08               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-12-19 21:34             ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  0:25               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  3:59                 ` Changes to " David Brownell
2006-12-20  4:26                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  5:14                     ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  5:34                       ` Greg KH
2006-12-20  5:52                         ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  7:50                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 12:53                             ` Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 13:38                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 14:31                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 15:51                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 22:49                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-20 23:37                                       ` Rick Jones
2006-12-19 23:51                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21  0:11                                       ` Francois Romieu
2006-12-20  0:26                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21 11:18                                           ` Francois Romieu
2006-12-21  1:12                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  2:05                                         ` Michael Wu
2006-12-21  2:18                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  2:38                                             ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  2:45                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:08                                                 ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  3:25                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:37                                                     ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:29                                                   ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:14                                             ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 13:14                                               ` jamal
2006-12-21  2:29                                         ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  2:10                                     ` Jesse Brandeburg
2006-12-21  8:54                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-22  1:03                                   ` Herbert Xu
2006-12-23  8:54                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-20 15:27                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-20 15:34                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 16:40                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-20 17:21                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 20:40                                         ` Benny Amorsen
2006-12-20 21:49                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 21:15                                     ` Stefan Rompf
2006-12-20 14:00                               ` Jiri Benc
2006-12-20 18:12                                 ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  1:15                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  1:57                                     ` Michael Wu
2006-12-21  2:20                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:02                                         ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:06                                     ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:14                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:32                                         ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 13:19                                           ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2006-12-21 17:16                                             ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 18:27                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22  1:25                                         ` Matt Domsch
2006-12-20 16:04                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2006-12-22 21:09                       ` Changes to PM layer break userspace Pavel Machek
2006-12-24  7:02                         ` David Brownell
2006-12-28 13:31                           ` Alan
2006-12-28 16:04                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29  5:27                             ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  2:15               ` Changes to sysfs " Andrew Morton
2006-12-20  2:35                 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-12-20  3:49                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-20  3:29                 ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  3:51                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-21  4:56                     ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  5:02                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-21  7:05                         ` David Brownell [this message]
2006-12-21  8:27                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-22 20:44     ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-23 14:02       ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-12-19 21:22 ` David Brownell
2006-12-19 22:57   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 23:36     ` Changes to " David Brownell
2006-12-20  0:09       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  3:19         ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  3:43           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  4:15             ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  4:56               ` [PATCH 1/2] Fix /sys/device/.../power/state Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 21:18                 ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  1:29                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:04                     ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  4:06                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  4:51                         ` David Brownell
2007-01-25  5:00                         ` [PATCH] Fix /sys/device/.../power/state regression Matthew Garrett
2007-01-26 19:59                           ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-26 20:42                             ` Greg KH
2007-01-27  1:26                               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-27 17:19                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-26 20:41                           ` Greg KH
2007-01-26 21:56                             ` David Brownell
2007-01-26 22:19                               ` Greg KH
2007-01-26 23:15                               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-27  0:42                                 ` David Brownell
2007-01-27  0:56                                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-27  2:40                                     ` David Brownell
2007-01-27 17:38                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-27 22:42                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-31 10:34                                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-27  1:19                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-27  3:02                                     ` David Brownell
2007-01-29 17:36                                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-27 13:17                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-30 18:43                             ` Eric Piel
2007-01-30 18:47                               ` Oliver Neukum
2007-01-30 19:01                                 ` Eric Piel
2007-01-31 10:55                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-01-31 11:03                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-20  4:56               ` [PATCH 2/2] Update feature-removal-schedule.txt Matthew Garrett
2006-12-22 20:47         ` Changes to PM layer break userspace Pavel Machek

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