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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Daniel Drake <dsd@gentoo.org>
Cc: Michael Wu <flamingice@sourmilk.net>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:25:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061221032547.GB1277@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4589FAA6.509@gentoo.org>

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 10:08:22PM -0500, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >Hm. Does the spec not set any upper bound on how long it might take for 
> >APs to respond? I'm afraid that my 802.11 knowledge is pretty slim. 
> 
> I'm not sure, but thats not entirely relevant either.  The time it takes 
> for the AP to respond is not related to the delay between userspace 
> sending the siwscan and giwscan ioctls (unless you're thinking of 
> userspace being too quick, but GIWSCAN already returns -EINPROGRESS when 
> appropriate so this is detectable)

Ah - I've mostly been looking at the ipw* drivers, where giwscan just 
seems to return information cached by the ieee80211 layer. A quick scan 
suggests that most cards behave like this, but prism54 seems to refer to 
the hardware. I can see why that would cause problems.

> I think it's reasonable to keep the interface down, but then when the 
> user does want to connect, bring the interface up, scan, present scan 
> results. Scanning is quick, there would be minimal wait needed here.

Yeah, that's true.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-21  3:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-19 18:52 Changes to sysfs PM layer break userspace Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 19:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-19 19:44   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 20:03     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-19 20:08       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 20:23         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-19 20:32           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 20:55             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-21  0:08               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-12-19 21:34             ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  0:25               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  3:59                 ` Changes to " David Brownell
2006-12-20  4:26                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  5:14                     ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  5:34                       ` Greg KH
2006-12-20  5:52                         ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  7:50                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 12:53                             ` Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 13:38                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 14:31                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 15:51                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 22:49                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-20 23:37                                       ` Rick Jones
2006-12-19 23:51                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21  0:11                                       ` Francois Romieu
2006-12-20  0:26                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21 11:18                                           ` Francois Romieu
2006-12-21  1:12                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  2:05                                         ` Michael Wu
2006-12-21  2:18                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  2:38                                             ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  2:45                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:08                                                 ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  3:25                                                   ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2006-12-21  3:37                                                     ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:29                                                   ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:14                                             ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 13:14                                               ` jamal
2006-12-21  2:29                                         ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  2:10                                     ` Jesse Brandeburg
2006-12-21  8:54                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-22  1:03                                   ` Herbert Xu
2006-12-23  8:54                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-20 15:27                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-20 15:34                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 16:40                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-20 17:21                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 20:40                                         ` Benny Amorsen
2006-12-20 21:49                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 21:15                                     ` Stefan Rompf
2006-12-20 14:00                               ` Jiri Benc
2006-12-20 18:12                                 ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  1:15                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  1:57                                     ` Michael Wu
2006-12-21  2:20                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:02                                         ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:06                                     ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:14                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:32                                         ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 13:19                                           ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2006-12-21 17:16                                             ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 18:27                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22  1:25                                         ` Matt Domsch
2006-12-20 16:04                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2006-12-22 21:09                       ` Changes to PM layer break userspace Pavel Machek
2006-12-24  7:02                         ` David Brownell
2006-12-28 13:31                           ` Alan
2006-12-28 16:04                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29  5:27                             ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  2:15               ` Changes to sysfs " Andrew Morton
2006-12-20  2:35                 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-12-20  3:49                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-20  3:29                 ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  3:51                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-21  4:56                     ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  5:02                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-21  7:05                         ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  8:27                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-22 20:44     ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-23 14:02       ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-12-19 21:22 ` David Brownell
2006-12-19 22:57   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-19 23:36     ` Changes to " David Brownell
2006-12-20  0:09       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  3:19         ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  3:43           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20  4:15             ` David Brownell
2006-12-20  4:56               ` [PATCH 1/2] Fix /sys/device/.../power/state Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 21:18                 ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  1:29                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:04                     ` David Brownell
2006-12-21  4:06                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  4:51                         ` David Brownell
2007-01-25  5:00                         ` [PATCH] Fix /sys/device/.../power/state regression Matthew Garrett
2007-01-26 19:59                           ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-26 20:42                             ` Greg KH
2007-01-27  1:26                               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-27 17:19                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-26 20:41                           ` Greg KH
2007-01-26 21:56                             ` David Brownell
2007-01-26 22:19                               ` Greg KH
2007-01-26 23:15                               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-27  0:42                                 ` David Brownell
2007-01-27  0:56                                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-27  2:40                                     ` David Brownell
2007-01-27 17:38                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-27 22:42                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-31 10:34                                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-27  1:19                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-01-27  3:02                                     ` David Brownell
2007-01-29 17:36                                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-27 13:17                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-30 18:43                             ` Eric Piel
2007-01-30 18:47                               ` Oliver Neukum
2007-01-30 19:01                                 ` Eric Piel
2007-01-31 10:55                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-01-31 11:03                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-20  4:56               ` [PATCH 2/2] Update feature-removal-schedule.txt Matthew Garrett
2006-12-22 20:47         ` Changes to PM layer break userspace Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-12-21  5:25 Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down David Brownell
2006-12-21  7:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21  8:11   ` David Brownell

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