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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de
Cc: segher@kernel.crashing.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devel@laptop.org, benh@kernel.crashing.org, wmb@firmworks.com,
	jg@laptop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Open Firmware device tree virtual filesystem
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:38:28 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070102.203828.70220767.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0701030213100.19644@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>

From: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 02:13:39 +0100 (MET)

> 
> On Jan 3 2007 01:52, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >> > Leaving aside the issue of in-memory or not, I don't think
> >> > it is realistic to think any completely common implementation
> >> > will work for this -- it might for current SPARC+PowerPC+OLPC,
> >> > but more stuff will be added over time...
> >> 
> >> I see nothing supporting this IMHO bogus claim.
> >
> > Please keep in mind that not all systems want to kill OF
> > as soon as they enter the kernel -- some want to keep it
> > active basically forever (or only remove it when the user
> > asks for it).
> 
> Kill OF? sparc does not want that IMO, how else should I return to
> the 'ok' prompt?

PowerPC kills OF because it really has to, that's one of numerous
reasons that it started sucking the device tree into a kernel copy
early in the bootup and using that for device discovery etc.

To be honest, the 'ok' prompt is of limited value when you have
things like Alt-SysRq and PPC's XMON debugger in the kernel already.

In fact, the 'ok' prompt is an ENORMOUS pain in the ass to support
on machines with USB keyboards, because sharing the USB host
controller is beyond non-trivial.  I've never implemented support
for that on sparc64 and I frankly have no desire to do the work
necessary to support that.  It simply is not worth it.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-03  4:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-31  1:38 [PATCH] Open Firmware device tree virtual filesystem Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31  5:19 ` David Miller
2006-12-31  9:36   ` Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31  9:52     ` David Miller
2006-12-31 10:11     ` David Kahn
2006-12-31 10:49       ` David Miller
2006-12-31 11:47         ` Rene Rebe
2006-12-31 11:53         ` David Kahn
2007-01-01  3:48           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02  3:56           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 18:43             ` Richard Smith
2006-12-31 15:41         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-12-31 20:46           ` David Miller
2007-01-01  3:37             ` David Kahn
2007-01-01  8:54               ` David Miller
2007-01-02  4:02               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 12:28                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01  3:33           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01  8:57             ` David Miller
2007-01-01 17:48               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 23:08                 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 23:52                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02  3:31                     ` David Miller
2007-01-02 11:26                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02  1:40                   ` David Kahn
2007-01-02  3:36                     ` David Miller
2007-01-01 18:10               ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-01 19:21                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02  4:05               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02  4:30                 ` David Miller
2007-01-02  4:57                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02  5:01                     ` David Miller
2007-01-02  5:09                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02  5:44                         ` David Miller
2007-01-02 12:36                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 11:03                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02  3:53     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 12:22       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 20:12         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:28           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 21:32             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:40               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 22:10                 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 22:05             ` David Miller
2007-01-03  0:48               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03  4:34                 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 15:23                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04  2:15                     ` David Miller
2007-01-02  3:45   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02  3:49     ` David Miller
2007-01-02 11:45     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 20:07       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-31 13:24 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-12-31 18:55   ` Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31 14:12 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-31 20:45   ` David Miller
2006-12-31 21:30     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02  3:43     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 11:37       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 13:22         ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-01-02 20:08         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 20:11           ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-02 20:48             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:37               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 21:47                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03  0:35                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03  0:44                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03  1:14                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03  4:35                         ` David Miller
2007-01-02 22:07                 ` David Miller
2007-01-03  0:52                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03  1:13                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-03  4:38                       ` David Miller [this message]
2007-01-03  5:05                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03 15:59                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 15:31                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03  4:34                     ` David Miller
2007-01-02 21:15           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 21:59             ` David Miller
2007-01-01  3:40   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01  4:21 ` Segher Boessenkool
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-11 17:39 ron minnich
2007-01-11 17:53 ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-11 17:55   ` ron minnich
2007-01-11 18:36     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-11 18:20 ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-01-11 18:47   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-11 19:12     ` ron minnich
2007-01-11 19:11   ` ron minnich

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