From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161140AbXBAEa2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:30:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161167AbXBAEa2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:30:28 -0500 Received: from ns2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:40569 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161140AbXBAEa1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:30:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:29:09 -0800 From: Greg KH To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" , Jeff Garzik , Tony Luck , Grant Grundler , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kyle McMartin , linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Brice Goglin , shaohua.li@intel.com, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, "David S. Miller" Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] MSI portability cleanups Message-ID: <20070201042909.GD3648@kroah.com> References: <1169714047.65693.647693675533.qpush@cradle> <1170015805.26655.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BD0BDC.40205@garzik.org> <1170022154.26655.63.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1170022154.26655.63.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 09:09:14AM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > If we followed that "only do incrementental changes" rule all the time, > imagine in what state would be our USB stack today since we couldn't > have dropped in Linus replacement one ... Bad example, that is not what happened at all. There was not an in-kernel USB stack when Linus wrote his. Inaky had his all-singing-all-dancing stack outside of the tree, and no one was really helping out with it. Only when Linus added his code to mainline did we all jump on it and _incrementally_ improve it to what we have today. So, in a way, you just proved that we need to do this in an incremental fashion, which is what I was also saying all along :) thanks, greg k-h