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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: jbohac@suse.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
	arjan@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de, johnstul@us.ibm.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [-mm patch] x86_64 GTOD: offer scalable vgettimeofday
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:14:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070201121417.GA3900@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200702011301.51834.ak@suse.de>


* Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:

> > The 'price' paid for it is lower resolution - but it's still good 
> > for those benchmarking TPC-C runs - and /alot/ simpler. It's also 
> > quite a bit faster than any TSC based vgettimeofday, because it 
> > doesnt have to do an RDTSC (or RDTSCP) instruction nor any 
> > approximation of the time.
> 
> I believe that should be also a separate clock_gettime() CLOCK_
> 
> Global settings for these things are bad. Even if you run TPC-C you 
> don't want your other programs that rely on monotonic time to break.

yeah. But maybe still there should still be an 'easy' option for people 
to consciously degrade the resolution of gettimeofday(), in exchange for 
more performance. There are systems where gettimeofday already has such 
resolution, so apps certainly shouldnt break from this. But i agree with 
you: that's why i made this default-off, and the CLOCK_ option could be 
a way for apps to reliably get this behavior, independently of the 
global setting (hence driving the migration of affected apps to this new 
CLOCK_ thing). Hm?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-01 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-01  9:59 [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday jbohac
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 1/9] Fix HPET init race jbohac
2007-02-02  2:34   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-06 16:44     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-07  0:12       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-10 12:31         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-26 20:58           ` Robin Holt
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 2/9] Remove the support for the VXTIME_PMTMR timer mode jbohac
2007-02-01 11:13   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:13     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 13:13       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:59         ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 14:18           ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 3/9] Remove the support for the VXTIME_HPET " jbohac
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 4/9] Remove the TSC synchronization on SMP machines jbohac
2007-02-01 11:14   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:17     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 15:16       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-02  7:14         ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13  0:34           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-13  6:40             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-13  8:28               ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13  8:41                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-13 17:09               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-13 17:20                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 22:18                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-13 22:38                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-14  6:59                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-13 23:55                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-14  0:18                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-14  0:25                     ` john stultz
2007-02-02  7:13       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 21:05     ` mbligh
2007-02-03  1:16   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 5/9] Add all the necessary structures to the vsyscall page jbohac
2007-02-01 11:17   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 6/9] Add the "Master Timer" jbohac
2007-02-01 11:22   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:29     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01  9:59 ` [patch 7/9] Adapt the time initialization code jbohac
2007-02-01 11:26   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:41     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 10:00 ` [patch 8/9] Add time_update_mt_guess() jbohac
2007-02-01 11:28   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:54     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 10:00 ` [patch 9/9] Make use of the Master Timer jbohac
2007-02-01 11:36   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 14:29     ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 15:23       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-02  7:05         ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-02  7:04       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 11:20 ` [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 11:53   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-01 12:02     ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:54       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-01 12:17   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 14:52   ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 16:56     ` john stultz
2007-02-01 19:41       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-01 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 11:46 ` [-mm patch] x86_64 GTOD: offer scalable vgettimeofday Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 12:01   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:14     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-02-01 12:17   ` [-mm patch] x86_64 GTOD: offer scalable vgettimeofday II Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 12:45       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-02  4:22 ` [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday Andrew Morton
2007-02-02  7:07   ` Andi Kleen

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