From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: jbohac@suse.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
arjan@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de, johnstul@us.ibm.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [-mm patch] x86_64 GTOD: offer scalable vgettimeofday II
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:45:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200702011345.14708.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070201122433.GA5255@elte.hu>
On Thursday 01 February 2007 13:24, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> if resolution is an issue then i can improve this thing to be based off
> a separate /optional/ hrtimer, thus if it's enabled it could enable 1000
> Hz (and not 1024 Hz) update for the variable. The update resolution
> could be tuned via a sysctl trivially, so everyone could tune the
> resolution of this to the value desired, and could do so runtime.
It would be better to let the application set it without root rights
(afaik W. allows this). Auto tuning beats explicit configuration anytime.
Not sure it's really worth it though.
My thinking was to gather more requirements of what users actually
want first before adding all these new modi.
> [ It could also be driven by the database right now: from a thread open
> /dev/rtc, set it to 1024 HZ, and do a gettimeofday() call in every
> tick - that will auto-update the timestamp. ]
zmailer used to do that (or probably still does) but I always hated
the scheme for some reason :)
> > [...] But that would also make everything slower again due to CPU
> > overhead as it was learned in the 2.4->2.6 HZ transition.
>
> note that this cost was measured on UP and on older hardware, and the
> cost of having a global 1000 Hz update gets linearly cheaper with the
> increase of CPUs on SMP: because only one such update has to be running.
> The systems those database vendors are interested in typically have a
> fair number of CPUs.
Good point. Even on desktop with Multi Core or SMT it should be cheaper now.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-01 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-01 9:59 [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday jbohac
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 1/9] Fix HPET init race jbohac
2007-02-02 2:34 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-06 16:44 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-07 0:12 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-10 12:31 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-26 20:58 ` Robin Holt
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 2/9] Remove the support for the VXTIME_PMTMR timer mode jbohac
2007-02-01 11:13 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:13 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 13:13 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:59 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 14:18 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 3/9] Remove the support for the VXTIME_HPET " jbohac
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 4/9] Remove the TSC synchronization on SMP machines jbohac
2007-02-01 11:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:17 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 15:16 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-02 7:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 0:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-13 6:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-13 8:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 8:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-13 17:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-13 17:20 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 22:18 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-13 22:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-14 6:59 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-13 23:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-14 0:18 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-14 0:25 ` john stultz
2007-02-02 7:13 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 21:05 ` mbligh
2007-02-03 1:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 5/9] Add all the necessary structures to the vsyscall page jbohac
2007-02-01 11:17 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 6/9] Add the "Master Timer" jbohac
2007-02-01 11:22 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:29 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 7/9] Adapt the time initialization code jbohac
2007-02-01 11:26 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:41 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 10:00 ` [patch 8/9] Add time_update_mt_guess() jbohac
2007-02-01 11:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:54 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 10:00 ` [patch 9/9] Make use of the Master Timer jbohac
2007-02-01 11:36 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 14:29 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 15:23 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-02 7:05 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-02 7:04 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 11:20 ` [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 11:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-01 12:02 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-01 12:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 14:52 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 16:56 ` john stultz
2007-02-01 19:41 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-01 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 11:46 ` [-mm patch] x86_64 GTOD: offer scalable vgettimeofday Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 12:01 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 12:17 ` [-mm patch] x86_64 GTOD: offer scalable vgettimeofday II Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 12:45 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-02-02 4:22 ` [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday Andrew Morton
2007-02-02 7:07 ` Andi Kleen
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