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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	rth@twiddle.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alpha@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: epoll handling in the alpha port
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:48:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070202054828.GE24090@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200702020019.36248.vapier@gentoo.org>

On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:19:35AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Friday 02 February 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > It might be to late to fix this - we risk breaking userspace which worked
> > around it.
> 
> we'd be breaking userspace API, but not ABI ... and the largest consumers out 
> there (glibc/uclibc) have not been accounting for this, so we wouldnt be 
> breaking them
> 
> that's how we noticed the issue in Gentoo ... all the epoll calls are 
> automatically declared -ENOSYS stubs in glibc's libc.so
> 
> is there some other large consumer i'm not thinking of ?

Not necessarily some large consumers, but epoll() is quite older than its
kernel inclusion, so there certainly are some apps still using the syscall
without going through libc.

> > It would be safer to add the correct definitions while leaving the old ones
> > in place.
> 
> in the end, either works for me ... i can see linux's pretty hard 'dont break 
> userspace' policy coming into play here

I think it would be reasonable to use the NR_epoll* names first, and to
declare NR_sys_epoll* aliases which will point to NR_epoll*. You would
then add a comment with the date of the change, stating that you keep
them just in case there are some old apps. Then, someone coming on the
comment in 3 or 4 years could reasonably suggest removing those aliases.

Willy


  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-02  5:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-01 20:20 epoll handling in the alpha port Mike Frysinger
2007-02-02  5:05 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-02  5:19   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-02-02  5:48     ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2007-02-02  6:22       ` Mike Frysinger

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