From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Jiri Bohac <jbohac@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ssouhlal@freebsd.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, johnstul@us.ibm.com, zippel@linux-m68k.org
Subject: Re: [patch 4/9] Remove the TSC synchronization on SMP machines
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:59:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070214065905.GA10887@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070213223833.GB7615@v2.random>
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:38:33PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:18:48PM +0100, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
> > It's not inherent to ntpd's design, but the current (which may have been
> > fixed since I looked last) implementation of the NTP PLL in the kernel.
> >
> > The interaction with ntpd can be fixed and I've done it in the past
> > once, although the fix wasn't all that nice.
>
> Yep, it can slowly move towards the correct time, but ntpdate (or more
> generally settimeofday) remains a fundamental issue (and I prefer time
> skews to be fixed ASAP, not slowly).
Skipping forward is trivial. For going backward, you can stop time (or
make it go forward very slowly). Still the output will be strictly
monotonic (but not more than that).
For small changes you simply change your estimate of the base clock
frequency to be different from what the specs say. Tuning that in a PLL
will get you to sync with true atomic GMT.
--
Vojtech Pavlik
Director SuSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-14 6:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-01 9:59 [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday jbohac
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 1/9] Fix HPET init race jbohac
2007-02-02 2:34 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-06 16:44 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-07 0:12 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-10 12:31 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-26 20:58 ` Robin Holt
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 2/9] Remove the support for the VXTIME_PMTMR timer mode jbohac
2007-02-01 11:13 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:13 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 13:13 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:59 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 14:18 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 3/9] Remove the support for the VXTIME_HPET " jbohac
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 4/9] Remove the TSC synchronization on SMP machines jbohac
2007-02-01 11:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:17 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 15:16 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-02 7:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 0:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-13 6:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-13 8:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 8:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-13 17:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-13 17:20 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 22:18 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-13 22:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-14 6:59 ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2007-02-13 23:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-14 0:18 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-14 0:25 ` john stultz
2007-02-02 7:13 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 21:05 ` mbligh
2007-02-03 1:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 5/9] Add all the necessary structures to the vsyscall page jbohac
2007-02-01 11:17 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 6/9] Add the "Master Timer" jbohac
2007-02-01 11:22 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:29 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 9:59 ` [patch 7/9] Adapt the time initialization code jbohac
2007-02-01 11:26 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:41 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 10:00 ` [patch 8/9] Add time_update_mt_guess() jbohac
2007-02-01 11:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 13:54 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 10:00 ` [patch 9/9] Make use of the Master Timer jbohac
2007-02-01 11:36 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 14:29 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 15:23 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-02 7:05 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-02 7:04 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 11:20 ` [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 11:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-01 12:02 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-02-01 12:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 14:52 ` Jiri Bohac
2007-02-01 16:56 ` john stultz
2007-02-01 19:41 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-01 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 11:46 ` [-mm patch] x86_64 GTOD: offer scalable vgettimeofday Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 12:01 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 12:17 ` [-mm patch] x86_64 GTOD: offer scalable vgettimeofday II Andi Kleen
2007-02-01 12:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 12:45 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-02 4:22 ` [patch 0/9] x86_64: reliable TSC-based gettimeofday Andrew Morton
2007-02-02 7:07 ` Andi Kleen
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