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From: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	vatsa@in.ibm.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	oleg@tv-sign.ru
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 0/4] Freezer based Cpu-hotplug
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:55:42 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070215142542.GA14931@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200702151431.10068.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 02:31:08PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> So I think tonight I'll start adding try_to_freeze() to the kernel threads that
> set PF_NOFREEZE.

cool! While you are at it, let me try to enhance the freezer api's
to incorporate the PFE_* flags.

> > 
> > That would still mean going over the task list twice.
> 
> Yes, but I think this is inevitable anyway, because we have moved the
> disabling of nonboot CPUs after the suspending of devices (for
> ACPI-related reasons).
> 
> Currently, we have, roughly:
> 
> freeze_processes();
> shrink_memory(); (swsusp only)
> suspend_devices();
> disable_nonboot_cpus();
> suspend
> 
> and the reverse during the resume.
> 
> Still, the second pass will be quick, since the majority of tasks are frozen
> when disable_nonboot_cpus() is called.

Ok. That's fine by me. Lets get it working first. We can always optimize
it later :-)

> > 
> > Cool! Lets get started then ;-)
> 
> No problem with that. ;-)
> 
> Speaking of the classification, do you think it would be practical to use
> some kind of "freezing levels"?  I mean, for each task we can define the
> "freezing level" at which it should be frozen and each user of the freezer
> can call it with a specific "freezing level" as a parameter.  Of course for
> this purpose the tasks frozen at level 1 have to be a subset of the tasks
> frozen at level 2 etc. and I'm not sure if this requirement can be satisfied.

A freeze hierarchy! I hope this freeze_level parameter ain't an alternative
to the PFE_* flags because then a task would be in a dilemma as to
what freezing level it should be at, if it wants to be frozen for lets
say kprobes but not for cpu-hotplug. Cpu-hotplug and kprobes
may not have a dependency like the one that exists between cpu-hotplug
and suspend. So, at this moment, even I am not sure if there is a
need for the hierarchy.

> 
> Rafael

Thanks and Regards
gautham.

-- 
Gautham R Shenoy
Linux Technology Center
IBM India.
"Freedom comes with a price tag of responsibility, which is still a bargain,
because Freedom is priceless!"

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-15 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-14 14:40 [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 0/4] Freezer based Cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-14 14:42 ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 1/4] freezer-cpu-hotplug core Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-14 14:43   ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 2/4] Revert changes to workqueue.c Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-14 14:43     ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 3/4] Revert changes to sched.c and slab.c Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-14 14:44       ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 4/4] Rip out lock_cpu_hotplug from linux Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-14 14:59     ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 2/4] Revert changes to workqueue.c Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-14 15:24     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-14 20:23       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-14 20:09     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-16  5:26       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16 15:33         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-16 16:47           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16 18:45             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-16 23:59             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-17  2:29               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-17 21:59                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-20 15:12                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-20 20:09                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-21  6:29                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-21 14:30                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-21 14:37                           ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-21 15:53                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-14 15:31   ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 1/4] freezer-cpu-hotplug core Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-14 19:47   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-16  6:48     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16 15:47       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-14 20:22   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-16  7:16     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16  8:12       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16  9:29         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-16  9:59           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16 11:06             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-16 19:46         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-17  2:31           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-17  5:32         ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-17 11:19           ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-16 16:06       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-14 21:43 ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 0/4] Freezer based Cpu-hotplug Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-15  6:34   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-15  8:09     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-15 12:20       ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-15 13:31         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-15 14:25           ` Gautham R Shenoy [this message]
2007-02-17 11:24             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-17 21:34               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-17 22:24                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-17 23:42                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-17 23:47                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 10:43                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 11:31                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 12:14                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 14:52                             ` freezer problems Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 15:14                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 16:19                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 18:14                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 18:56                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 22:01                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 23:19                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-19 20:23                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-19 21:21                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-19 22:41                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-19 23:35                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-20  0:12                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-20  0:32                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-20  0:50                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-20 18:28                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-20 18:29                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-21 18:14                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-21 18:13                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-21 18:27                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-21 20:03                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-21 20:47                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-21 21:06                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-21 23:10                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-22 10:47                                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-22 11:33                                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-22 17:03                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-22 17:44                                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-22 21:56                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-23 18:15                                                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-23  3:02                                                                 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-18 15:09                             ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 0/4] Freezer based Cpu-hotplug Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 16:11                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 18:51                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 10:32                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 11:32                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 12:12                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 15:06                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 12:56               ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-21 14:52               ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-21 19:42                 ` Pavel Machek
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     [not found]       ` <20070223104723.GB10973@in.ibm.com>
     [not found]         ` <20070223110201.GC10973@in.ibm.com>
2007-02-23 19:03           ` freezer problems Gautham R Shenoy

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