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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Karim Yaghmour <karim.yaghmour@kryptiva.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	systemtap@sources.redhat.com, ltt-dev@shafik.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/05] Linux Kernel Markers, non optimized architectures
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:45:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070221204535.GA616@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45DCA6E1.7080903@kryptiva.com>

* Karim Yaghmour (karim.yaghmour@kryptiva.com) wrote:
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> Hello Mathieu,
> 
> Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > Yes, that was indeed the first way I implemented it, as a "disable" 
> option. One of the main thing we have to figure out before I modify this is 
> if we want to have the generic version of markers available in a "forced" 
> manner at the marker site with the GEN_MARK macro instead of the MARK macro 
> (this is the actual implementation). It has proven to be useful to 
> instrument lockdep.c irq
> > enable/disable tracing functions. The reason why is because they are 
> called just before the trap handler returns and I need it to do XMC on x86 
> and x86_64. It would therefore cause a recursive trap.
> >
> > I think it makes sense to have this kind of support for 
> hard-to-instrument sites within the marker infrastructure, but the cost is 
> to have two marker flavors : MARK and GEN_MARK (but really GEN_MARK is only 
> intended for a few sites).
> 
> I must admit that I'm unsure about the use of different marker macros.
> How about bitwise flags that could be coded as part of the marker
> at the marker site? Something like "MARKER_TYPE_FORCED". This would
> still allow some form of toplevel control at the macro definition.
> Otherwise there's some digging to be done on a per-marker
> basis ...
> 

The problem with your proposal, I guess, is that people will have to
add a supplementary parameter to the macro.

It is not uncommon to have two slightly versions of macros/functions in
the kernel (preempt_enable()/preempt_enable_no_resched(), or macros
starting with underscores). Normally, the underscore states that the
macro does not do the proper locking itself (this is not our case).
Therefore, I would suggest using a name that suggests against what the
macro is protected. For instance, a marker pointing to the generic
version is only needed to protect against the debug trap handler and
should only be used on x86 and x86_64.

So, something like MARK_NO_TRAP() would be appropriate : it would be an
optimized version for every architecture except x86 and x86_64. The
meaning of this macro is : "This is a marker that will never generate a
trap because of its activation" (just as a precision : it doesn't say
anything about the probe connected to the marker). It also acts as a
strong suggestion about what *should not* be done within the probe.

Mathieu

> Karim
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-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Candidate, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-21 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-11 20:03 [PATCH 00/05] Linux Kernel Markers - kernel 2.6.20 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-11 20:03 ` [PATCH 01/05] Linux Kernel Markers : Kconfig menus Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-11 20:03 ` [PATCH 02/05] Linux Kernel Markers, architecture independant code Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-15  7:21   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-15 19:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-11 20:03 ` [PATCH 03/05] Linux Kernel Markers : powerpc optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-11 20:03 ` [PATCH 04/05] Linux Kernel Markers : i386 optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-11 20:03 ` [PATCH 05/05] Linux Kernel Markers, non optimized architectures Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-15  7:16   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-15 19:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-16 20:26       ` Karim Yaghmour
2007-02-16 23:38         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-21 20:09           ` Karim Yaghmour
2007-02-21 20:45             ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-02-21 22:06               ` Karim Yaghmour
2007-02-22  0:18                 ` [PATCH] Linux Kernel Markers - cleanup Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-15  7:12 ` [PATCH 00/05] Linux Kernel Markers - kernel 2.6.20 Andrew Morton
2007-02-15 15:28   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-02-15 22:18     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-15 22:30       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-15 23:14       ` Vara Prasad
2007-02-16  1:32   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-16  1:33   ` [PATCH] Linux Kernel Markers Documentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-16  1:45     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-02-16  3:56       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-16  4:05       ` [PATCH] Linux Kernel Markers Documentation - fix Mathieu Desnoyers

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