From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>,
mbligh@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
johnstul@us.ibm.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Fast assurate clock readable from user space and NMI handler
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:38:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070227073815.GA25894@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070227062913.GC1259@elte.hu>
* Ingo Molnar (mingo@elte.hu) wrote:
>
> * Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com> wrote:
>
> > The pit clocksource could be dropped pretty easy with my clocksource
> > update patches, which I'm still working on but you could easily drop
> > clock sources that aren't atomic like the pit .. Also the pit is
> > generally undesirable, so it's not going to be missed.
>
> that's totally unacceptable, and i'm amazed you are even suggesting it -
> often the PIT ends up being the most reliable hardware clock in a PC.
> Btw., what's wrong with the spinlock that is protecting PIT access? It
> expresses the non-atomic property of the PIT just fine.
>
I am concerned about the automatic fallback to the PIT when no other
clock source is available. A clocksource read would be atomic when TSC
or HPET are available, but would fall back on PIT otherwise. There
should be some way to specify that a caller is only interested in atomic
clock sources (if none are available, the call should simply return an
error, or 0).
I still think that an RCU style update mechanism would be a good way to
fix the current clocksource read issue. Another, slower and non NMI
safe way to do this would be with a read seqlock and with IRQ disabling.
Mathieu
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Mathieu Desnoyers
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2007-02-24 16:19 ` [RFC] Fast assurate clock readable from user space and NMI handler Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-24 18:06 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-26 20:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-26 21:27 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-26 22:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-26 23:12 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 3:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27 4:22 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 4:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27 6:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-27 7:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-02-27 8:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-27 10:18 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 16:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27 17:24 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 19:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27 19:40 ` john stultz
2007-02-27 20:09 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 9:59 ` Daniel Walker
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