From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
mbligh@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
johnstul@us.ibm.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Fast assurate clock readable from user space and NMI handler
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:02:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070227160206.GA2391@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1172571535.5517.222.camel@imap.mvista.com>
* Daniel Walker (dwalker@mvista.com) wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 02:38 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>
> >
> > I am concerned about the automatic fallback to the PIT when no other
> > clock source is available. A clocksource read would be atomic when TSC
> > or HPET are available, but would fall back on PIT otherwise. There
> > should be some way to specify that a caller is only interested in atomic
> > clock sources (if none are available, the call should simply return an
> > error, or 0).
> >
> I'm not sure what you mean by using the RCU
The original proposal of this thread uses a RCU (read-copy-update) style
update of the previous 64 bits counter : it swaps a pointer (atomically)
upon update by incrementing a word-sized counter that is used, by the
reader, to get the offest in the array (with a modulo operation) for the
current readable data and as a way to detect incorrect reads of
overwritten information (we re-read the word-sized counter after having
read the data structure to make sure is has not been incremented. If we
detect an increment, we redo the whole operation).
> > I still think that an RCU style update mechanism would be a good way to
> > fix the current clocksource read issue. Another, slower and non NMI
> > safe way to do this would be with a read seqlock and with IRQ disabling.
>
> , but the pit clocksource
> does disable interrupts with a spin_lock_irqsave().
>
When I say "clocksource read issue", I am talking about
race between the function you proposed earlier, which you say is used in
-rt kernels for latency tracing (get_monotonic_cycles), and HPET and TSC
"last cycles" updates.
Mathieu
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2007-02-24 16:19 ` [RFC] Fast assurate clock readable from user space and NMI handler Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-24 18:06 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-26 20:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-26 21:27 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-26 22:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-26 23:12 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 3:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27 4:22 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 4:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27 6:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-27 7:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27 8:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-27 10:18 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 16:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-02-27 17:24 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 19:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27 19:40 ` john stultz
2007-02-27 20:09 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 9:59 ` Daniel Walker
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