public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Robin Getz <rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org>
Cc: Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: should RTS init in serial core be tied to CRTSCTS
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:39:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070305083918.GA26436@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703041542.25633.rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org>

On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 03:42:25PM -0500, Robin Getz wrote:
> On Sun 4 Mar 2007 14:46, Russell King pondered:
> > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 07:03:02PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> >  > the console= bootcmd allows for controlling of the initial state of
> >  > flow control by adding/omitting the 'r' suffix ...
> >
> >  The console command *only* sets the state for the kernel's use of one
> >  serial port.  It does not affect any other serial port, so tying
> >  random RTS behaviours into that command line option is absolutely
> >  silly.
> 
> I have one serial port in the system, it shares console, and the 
> communications port for the application. (But I guess that is besides the 
> point).

In which case communications over that port could be unreliable.
What if the kernel decides to spit out a message in the middle of
your applications data transfer?

If you're using a serial port for a data application, don't make it
the kernel console.

> When the common serial core initialises the UART, and sees that it has the 
> capability to do HW flow control - it enables it, asserting the pin, even if 
> I don't want it at that moment in time.
> 
> The real issue is that there is some legacy equipment, which gets confused if 
> it sees glitches on RTS (which happens today, when serial core init asserts 
> RTS, and then the the main application turns it off)...
> 
> How do I set the set up the UART, so RTS is avaliable, but not enabled?

No idea, sorry.  It's not something any Linux kernel version has ever
supported, and since I no longer do serial support it's not something
I'd be involved with anymore.

All I will say is that thinking about keying such a decision off the
kernel console= parameter is absolutely silly - the console= parameter
has nothing to do with the serial port's userspace settings.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-05  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-02  0:03 should RTS init in serial core be tied to CRTSCTS Mike Frysinger
2007-03-04 16:20 ` Robin Getz
2007-03-04 19:46 ` Russell King
2007-03-04 20:42   ` Robin Getz
2007-03-05  8:39     ` Russell King [this message]
2007-03-05 17:09   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-05 17:56     ` Russell King
2007-03-05 18:13       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-06 20:40 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-06 23:24   ` Robin Getz
2007-03-07 12:46     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-07 13:38       ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-07 15:19       ` Robin Getz
2007-03-07 21:30         ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-08 13:44           ` Robin Getz
2007-03-08 13:48             ` Russell King
2007-03-08 14:16               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2007-03-08 14:20                 ` Russell King
2007-03-08 16:51                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-08 18:43                   ` Tosoni
2007-03-09 20:39                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-12  9:22                       ` Tosoni
2007-03-12 12:59                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-08 14:23               ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-08 14:28                 ` Russell King
2007-03-08 14:40                   ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-08 14:25               ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-08 20:23               ` Robin Getz
2007-03-08 20:40                 ` Russell King
2007-03-08 23:32                   ` Robin Getz
2007-03-09  8:57                     ` Russell King
2007-03-09 14:18                   ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-07 12:54     ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-07 13:03       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-07 20:04         ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-07  5:13   ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-07 12:48     ` Krzysztof Halasa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-05  8:23 Oleksiy Kebkal

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20070305083918.GA26436@flint.arm.linux.org.uk \
    --to=rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-serial@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org \
    --cc=vapier.adi@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox