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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>, ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:58:53 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703051058.54234.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070304231312.GA2268@1wt.eu>

On Monday 05 March 2007 10:13, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> I've now given it a try with HZ=250 on my dual-athlon.

Great, thanks. The HZ should make very little difference, except for slightly 
lower latencies as you increase the HZ.

> It works 
> beautifully. I also quickly checked that playing mp3 doesn't skip during
> make -j4, and that gears runs fairly smoothly, since those are the
> references people often use.

Good. I obviously need to ensure that these remain well managed since I, for 
one, never want linux to suck on the desktop. In your case, I was more 
interested in your real world problems you were having so the rest of your 
report is even more important to me.

> But with real work, it's excellent too. When I saturate my CPUs by
> injecting HTTP traffic on haproxy, the load is stable and the command line
> perfectly responsive, while in the past the load would oscillate and the
> command line sometimes stopped to respond for a few seconds.
>
> I've also launched my scheddos program (you may remember, the one we did a
> few experiments with). I could not cause any freeze at all. Plain 2.6.20
> had already improved a lot in this area, but above 4 processes/CPU,
> occasional short freezes did still occur. This time, even at 100 processes,
> the system was rather slow (of course!) but just as expected, and nothing
> more.
>
> I also tried the good old "dd if=/dev/zero bs=1|...|dd bs=1 of=/dev/null"
> and it did not cause any trouble.
>
> I will boot 2.6 slightly more often to test the code under various
> conditions, and I will recommend it to a few people I know who tend to
> switch back to 2.4 after one day full of 2.6 jerkiness.
>
> Overall, you have done a great job !

Thank you very much. I think you have nicely pointed out some of the real 
world advantages to this design. Those testcases are good for testing average 
latency, fairness, and consistency of both of them under various loads so 
they are excellent real world examples. If you extrapolate those facts to 
server loads you can understand how the fairness and latency can translate 
into advantages anywhere.

> I hope that more people will give it a try, first to help find possible
> remaining bugs, and to pronounce in favour of its inclusion in mainline.

Thanks. I've already had a hundred or so people testing this code (thanks to 
the -ck mailing list people!) without any recent bugs prior to announcing it 
to lkml so I believe it is quite safe for testing.

-- 
-ck

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-05  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 247+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-04 20:35 [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler Al Boldi
2007-03-04 21:49 ` Con Kolivas
     [not found]   ` <45EB45F7.3050208@simon.arlott.org.uk>
2007-03-04 22:27     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-05 18:29       ` Simon Arlott
2007-03-05 21:36         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 23:13   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-04 23:58     ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2007-03-05  0:10     ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-05  1:09     ` Gene Heskett
     [not found] ` <200703050834.45712.a1426z@gawab.com>
     [not found]   ` <20070305060732.GQ30401@nysv.org>
2007-03-05 11:59     ` [ck] " Al Boldi
2007-03-05 12:29       ` Con Kolivas
     [not found]         ` <200703052123.01095.a1426z@gawab.com>
2007-03-05 22:10           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-06  8:42             ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-06 15:15               ` Al Boldi
2007-03-11 18:11                 ` Al Boldi
2007-03-11 21:52                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-11 22:12                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12  4:42                       ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12  4:53                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 11:26                           ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 12:52                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 14:14                               ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 14:58                                 ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-12 16:37                                   ` michael chang
2007-03-12 17:41                                   ` Al Boldi
2007-03-12 18:05                                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 18:47                                   ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-12 18:58                                     ` Antonio Vargas
2007-03-19 10:47                                       ` Helge Hafting
2007-03-18  1:30                               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-18 10:50                               ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-13 15:31                             ` [PATCH] [RSDL-0.30] sched: rsdl improve latencies with differential nice Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 16:03                               ` [PATCH] [RSDL-0.30] sched: rsdl improve latencies with differential nice -1 Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 16:08                                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 20:58                                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 23:08                                   ` RSDL development plans Con Kolivas
2007-03-16 12:25                                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-16 13:40                                       ` RSDL v0.31 Con Kolivas
2007-03-16 15:34                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-16 21:13                                           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-16 22:30                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-16 23:05                                               ` [ck] " Dirk Schoebel
2007-03-17  4:24                                               ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-17  5:56                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17  6:08                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 13:56                                                     ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-03-18 19:37                                                     ` Lee Revell
2007-03-18 19:55                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18 22:45                                                       ` Szonyi Calin
2007-03-19  2:27                                                     ` David Schwartz
2007-03-19  6:21                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-19  6:59                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-17  6:26                                                   ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-17  7:11                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17  7:25                                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-17  7:29                                                         ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-17 11:48                                                       ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-17  7:45                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17  7:44                                                       ` David Lang
2007-03-17  8:46                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 14:09                                                           ` [ck] " Mark Glines
2007-03-17 14:33                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 14:54                                                               ` Mark Glines
2007-03-17 14:58                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17  8:23                                                       ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-17  9:42                                                         ` [patch] CFS scheduler: Completely Fair Scheduler / CONFIG_SCHED_FAIR Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17  8:41                                                       ` RSDL v0.31 Serge Belyshev
2007-03-17  9:48                                                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-17  9:58                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 10:49                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 12:05                                                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-17 13:36                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 17:03                                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-17 17:37                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 18:23                                                                       ` [ck] " Kacper Wysocki
2007-03-17 18:45                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 13:58                                                             ` michael chang
2007-03-17 20:55                                                             ` Al Boldi
2007-03-18  6:17                                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  6:47                                                                 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-18  7:08                                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  7:22                                                                     ` [ck] " Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-03-18  7:38                                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  8:04                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  8:20                                                                         ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-03-18  8:34                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  9:57                                                                         ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-18 13:57                                                                           ` Avuton Olrich
2007-03-19 20:47                                                                           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-20 10:19                                                                             ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-21  8:58                                                                             ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-18 15:44                                                                         ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-03-18 16:09                                                                           ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-19 16:07                                                               ` Mark Lord
2007-03-19 16:26                                                                 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-19 16:36                                                                   ` Mark Lord
2007-03-19 16:43                                                                     ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-20  3:11                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20  6:11                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-20  8:03                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-21 14:57                                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-21 16:02                                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-21 17:06                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-22  7:07                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-22  9:18                                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-22  9:34                                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-22  9:41                                                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-22 22:03                                                                                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-22 22:50                                                                                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-23  4:39                                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-23  5:59                                                                                       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-23  6:11                                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-23 12:17                                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20070321161147.54c7a727@localhost>
2007-03-21 17:07                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-22  4:49                                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-22  7:14                                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-20  9:03                                                                           ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-20 12:31                                                                             ` Artur Skawina
2007-03-20 19:16                                                                               ` Artur Skawina
2007-03-21  7:50                                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-21 10:43                                                                               ` David Schwartz
2007-03-28 23:37                                                                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-29  7:10                                                                                   ` David Schwartz
2007-03-29  7:34                                                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-20 15:31                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 18:08                                                                             ` Al Boldi
2007-03-21  8:22                                                                             ` Keith Duthie
2007-03-28 23:43                                                                             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-20 10:26                                                                         ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-20 13:22                                                                         ` Mark Lord
2007-03-20 15:16                                                                           ` Ray Lee
2007-03-20 15:20                                                                             ` Mark Lord
2007-03-21  8:55                                                                             ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-19 20:53                                                                 ` Al Boldi
2007-03-20 19:50                                                                   ` Artur Skawina
2007-03-21  4:15                                                                     ` Al Boldi
2007-03-21 17:24                                                                       ` Artur Skawina
2007-03-19 16:03                                                             ` Mark Lord
2007-03-17 11:49                                                           ` is RSDL an "unfair" scheduler too? Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17 12:02                                                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-17 12:23                                                               ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-17 17:31                                                                 ` David Schwartz
2007-03-17 12:28                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17 12:43                                                                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-17 16:34                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-18  3:23                                                                     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-18  2:13                                                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-18  3:20                                                                     ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-18  5:37                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18 10:58                                                                       ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-17 12:15                                                             ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-17 20:41                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-18  1:25                                                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-18  1:32                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18  5:24                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-18  5:55                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-19  2:27                                                                       ` David Schwartz
2007-03-19 13:27                                                                         ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-03-19 18:30                                                                           ` David Lang
2007-03-19 15:25                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-19 16:06                                                                           ` Helge Hafting
2007-03-19 16:37                                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-18  6:09                                                                     ` Bill Huey
2007-03-18  6:37                                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  7:35                                                                         ` Bill Huey
2007-03-19 21:14                                                                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-18  6:26                                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-18  6:54                                                                       ` [ck] " Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-03-18  7:58                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-18  8:45                                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-18  5:00                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-17 15:13                                                           ` RSDL v0.31 Mark Hahn
2007-03-17 17:22                                                             ` Stephen Clark
2007-03-19 15:06                                                             ` Chris Friesen
2007-03-17  7:56                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17 11:07                                                       ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-17 12:44                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17 13:44                                                           ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-17 14:04                                                         ` [ck] " Ed Tomlinson
2007-03-17 14:32                                               ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-17 14:43                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-17 15:39                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:12                                         ` AshMilsted
2007-03-16 17:41                                           ` Gabriel C
2007-03-16 21:55                                         ` Al Boldi
2007-03-17  2:51                                           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-17  4:40                                             ` Al Boldi
2007-03-17  4:57                                               ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-17  5:15                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-17 13:50                                                 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-03-17 16:12                                                 ` Al Boldi
2007-03-16 13:42                                       ` RSDL development plans Mike Galbraith
2007-03-16 13:59                                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-16 14:07                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-14  9:13                               ` [PATCH] [RSDL-0.30] sched: rsdl improve latencies with differential nice Mike Galbraith
2007-03-14  9:25                                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-14  9:42                                   ` Mike Galbraith
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-11 22:29 [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler bert hubert
2007-03-11 22:57 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08 14:27 Tim Tassonis
2007-03-06  4:57 Shawn Starr
2007-03-05  9:45 Nicolas Mailhot
2007-03-05  9:53 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 10:00   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-03-05 15:22   ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2007-03-05 18:37     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 18:20   ` Lee Revell
2007-03-05 19:19     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05 22:40       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-05 23:19         ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-06  2:23       ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-03-06  2:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  3:36           ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-09  4:04           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-09  6:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09  7:04               ` Bill Huey
2007-03-09 10:54               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-09 14:54               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-09 18:11                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06 17:50   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06 20:06     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09  4:21       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-04  7:00 Con Kolivas
2007-03-04  7:45 ` [ck] " Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 14:04   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 11:08 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 11:47   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 12:24     ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 12:46       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 13:25         ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 13:49           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-04 14:11             ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-05  2:31               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2007-03-05  3:16                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-04 14:36             ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-04 16:08               ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-05 23:05                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06  0:18                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-06  4:41                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-06  5:39                       ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-06 19:04                       ` jos poortvliet
2007-03-06 21:37                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-06 21:54                         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-05 21:52 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08  8:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 10:07   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08 20:25 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-03-08 20:57   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-08 21:31     ` Fabio Comolli

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