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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:59:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070305135918.GA32380@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070305145847.GH22829@bingen.suse.de>


* Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:

> I think we would need to have a paravirt ops callback to decide this 
> first. But it doesn't look critical to me anyways.

well, it's critical to me in two ways: 1) to make the i386 paravirt code 
clean 2) to have a proper VDSO for a KVM paravirtual guest. The original 
change is also bad because it changes how a Linux guest behaves: it 
turns off the vdso by default, and disables the compat VDSO. I.e. it's a 
bad performance step backwards if CONFIG_PARAVIRT is enabled (uses int 
$0x80 instead of sysenter), which hurts only KVM and basically none of 
the other hypervisors. It also muddifies the VDSO picture wrt. 
virtualization.

i.e. it hurts the sane stuff and benefits the crappy stuff, and my 
change undoes that. That's enough for me to call it critical ;-)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-05 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-05 12:06 [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 12:36 ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-05 12:40   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 13:00     ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-05 13:32       ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-05 14:28   ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-05 13:48     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 14:58       ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-05 13:59         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-03-05 14:10           ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-05 14:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 13:28 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-05 13:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 14:34   ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-05 13:46     ` [patch] paravirt: re-enable COMPAT_VDSO Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 13:48     ` [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 20:11     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-05 20:16       ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-05 20:33         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-05 20:19       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 20:42         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06  0:57   ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-06  1:03     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06  1:11       ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-06  1:14       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06  1:51         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06  1:53           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06  8:19             ` Xen & VMI? Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06  8:37               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06  8:48                 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06  8:52                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06  9:03                   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06  9:10                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06  9:15                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06  9:34                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 10:15                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06 10:26                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 11:04                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06 11:59                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 12:34                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06 15:03                               ` Anthony Liguori
2007-03-06 17:17                                 ` Nakajima, Jun
2007-03-06 17:32                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2007-03-06 20:37                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 21:02                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 21:11                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 21:13                                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 21:20                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 21:46                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 21:35                                     ` Nakajima, Jun
2007-03-07  0:44                                     ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-07  0:54                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2007-03-07  3:06                                       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07  8:15                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:17                                         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 11:15                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 19:14                                         ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-06 16:27                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 17:11                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  2:16                                   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06  9:55                     ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-06 10:23                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06 10:31                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 19:46                   ` Chris Wright
2007-03-06 20:30                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 20:53                       ` Chris Wright
2007-03-06 21:03                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 21:28                           ` Chris Wright
2007-03-07  2:35                             ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06  9:07               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06  9:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 16:42                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 17:18                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 18:04                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06  7:35         ` [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06  7:42           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06  7:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 18:48             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-05 14:27 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-05 21:58   ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-05 22:01     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-05 22:58       ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-05 23:03         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06  8:34         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06  9:13           ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-06  9:14             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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