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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Robin Getz <rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org>
Cc: Oleksiy Kebkal <kebkal@gmail.com>,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: should RTS init in serial core be tied to CRTSCTS
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:40:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070308204020.GE30023@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703081523.39698.rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org>

On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 03:23:39PM -0500, Robin Getz wrote:
> On Thu 8 Mar 2007 08:48, Russell King pondered:
> > On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 08:44:31AM -0500, Robin Getz wrote:
> > > That would let you change things are run time, but the problem is at
> > > boot time. A default setting needs to be set, so when things initialize,
> > > and proc does not exist yet, it is still set properly...
> >
> > I disagree.  "proc does not exist yet" - the only time that applies is
> > long before userspace as active.
> 
> Right - We both agree - And setting console=/dev/null in the bootargs still 
> does not help.

Ok, good.

> When the kernel initializes the UART Port, it asserts RTS - which confuses
> the host it is attached to (in this case, the Linux system is the serial 
> peripheral).

... which occurs /after/ userspace is up and running, when sysfs is
available.  So putting it in sysfs is reasonable.

> How about adding a module_param to serial core, which the default is to
> assert RTS (as is today), and someone (like me) can override with
> serial_core.RTS=0

So all ports change behaviour with a single parameter?  That'll stop
NULL modem cables with hardware flow control enabled working on other
ports without compensatory tweaking.

No, doing a system-wide change like that is _not_ a solution - it just
moves the problem elsewhere.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-08 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-02  0:03 should RTS init in serial core be tied to CRTSCTS Mike Frysinger
2007-03-04 16:20 ` Robin Getz
2007-03-04 19:46 ` Russell King
2007-03-04 20:42   ` Robin Getz
2007-03-05  8:39     ` Russell King
2007-03-05 17:09   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-05 17:56     ` Russell King
2007-03-05 18:13       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-06 20:40 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-06 23:24   ` Robin Getz
2007-03-07 12:46     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-07 13:38       ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-07 15:19       ` Robin Getz
2007-03-07 21:30         ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-08 13:44           ` Robin Getz
2007-03-08 13:48             ` Russell King
2007-03-08 14:16               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2007-03-08 14:20                 ` Russell King
2007-03-08 16:51                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-08 18:43                   ` Tosoni
2007-03-09 20:39                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-12  9:22                       ` Tosoni
2007-03-12 12:59                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-08 14:23               ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-08 14:28                 ` Russell King
2007-03-08 14:40                   ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-08 14:25               ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-08 20:23               ` Robin Getz
2007-03-08 20:40                 ` Russell King [this message]
2007-03-08 23:32                   ` Robin Getz
2007-03-09  8:57                     ` Russell King
2007-03-09 14:18                   ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-07 12:54     ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-07 13:03       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-03-07 20:04         ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-07  5:13   ` Oleksiy Kebkal
2007-03-07 12:48     ` Krzysztof Halasa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-05  8:23 Oleksiy Kebkal

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