From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Pratap Subrahmanyam <pratap@vmware.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Daniel Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>, Daniel Arai <arai@vmware.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Subject: Re: hardwired VMI crap
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:42:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070308224223.GD30113@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45F0761C.6060107@vmware.com>
* Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com> wrote:
> [...] So it is a little late to tell us - "redesign your hypervisor,
> or else.."
is this how long the "paravirt_ops hides all the details and the VMI
hypervisor ABI will never hinder Linux" sham lasted? Now that your stuff
is upstream barely 2 weeks you say that it needs a redesign of your
hypervisor to implement our suggestions? And your argument is: "oops,
we've got product plans, too late for that, sorry"?
_we_ have to live with that mess for years, and part of our job is to
say 'NO' when we see mess coming up. And no, it's not our job to solve
it for you.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-08 22:43 UTC|newest]
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2007-03-06 10:59 ` + stupid-hack-to-make-mainline-build.patch added to -mm tree Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06 21:07 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-06 22:21 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-06 21:32 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-06 23:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 0:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 0:35 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 0:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 0:53 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 1:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 2:08 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 8:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 17:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 17:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 18:03 ` James Morris
2007-03-07 18:35 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 0:45 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-07 17:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 18:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 18:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 18:11 ` James Morris
2007-03-07 18:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 19:05 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 19:49 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 20:11 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 20:49 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 21:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 20:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:02 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 21:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 21:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:14 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 21:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:33 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 22:05 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 23:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 23:25 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 23:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 23:40 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 18:30 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 0:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08 1:01 ` Daniel Arai
2007-03-08 1:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 7:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08 7:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08 8:01 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 18:24 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 18:44 ` Daniel Arai
2007-03-08 19:14 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 19:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 19:47 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 19:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:10 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:23 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:42 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 21:45 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 19:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 9:10 ` hardwired VMI crap Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 10:06 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 11:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08 20:46 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 21:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 22:17 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 22:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 22:39 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-16 10:12 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-08 21:15 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 21:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 21:43 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 22:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 22:36 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 23:39 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 23:55 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-09 0:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 0:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 0:22 ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-09 0:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-09 0:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-09 0:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 22:31 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 21:39 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 22:58 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 22:42 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-03-08 23:39 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 18:35 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-07 23:33 ` + stupid-hack-to-make-mainline-build.patch added to -mm tree Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 23:52 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-08 0:19 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 0:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08 0:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 20:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 21:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:34 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 22:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 22:17 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 22:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 22:28 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-08 8:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 8:15 ` Keir Fraser
2007-03-08 8:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 10:26 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-07 21:42 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 22:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 5:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 0:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 0:42 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 1:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 1:44 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 7:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
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