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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.21-rc3-mm1 RSDL results
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:20:06 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070309222006.GJ10394@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703100912.07792.kernel@kolivas.org>

On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 09:12:07AM +1100, Con Kolivas wrote:
> On Saturday 10 March 2007 08:57, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 03:39:59PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 08:19:18AM +1100, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 10 March 2007 08:07, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday 10 March 2007 07:46, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > > > > > My suspicion is the problem lies in giving too much quanta to
> > > > > > newly-started processes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah that's some nice detective work there. Mainline does some rather
> > > > > complex accounting on sched_fork including (possibly) a whole timer
> > > > > tick which rsdl does not do. make forks off continuously so what you
> > > > > say may well be correct. I'll see if I can try to revert to the
> > > > > mainline behaviour in sched_fork (which was obviously there for a
> > > > > reason).
> > > >
> > > > Wow! Thanks Matt. You've found a real bug too. This seems to fix the
> > > > qemu misbehaviour and bitmap errors so far too! Now can you please try
> > > > this to see if it fixes your problem?
> > >
> > > Sorry, it's about the same. I now suspect an accounting glitch involving
> > > pipe wake-ups.
> > >
> > > 5x memload: good
> > > 5x execload: good
> > > 5x forkload: good
> > > 5 parallel makes: mostly good
> > > make -j 5: bad
> > >
> > > So what's different between makes in parallel and make -j 5? Make's
> > > job server uses pipe I/O to control how many jobs are running.
> >
> > Matt, could you check with plain 2.6.20 + Con's patch ? It is possible
> > that he added bugs when porting to -mm, or that someting in -mm causes
> > the trouble. Your experience with -mm seems so much different from mine
> > with mainline, there must be a difference somewhere !
> 
> Good idea.

2.6.20+RSDL+tickfix+noyield behaves more or less the same under make
-j5 as 2.6.21-rc3-mm1. A bit worse, perhaps. There's no tickless on
2.6.20, so that could explain that.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-09 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-09  5:39 2.6.21-rc3-mm1 RSDL results Matt Mackall
2007-03-09  6:28 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09  7:53   ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-09  8:20     ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-09  8:39       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09 18:27         ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-09 20:15           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09 20:26             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09 20:51               ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-09 20:55             ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-09 20:46         ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-09 21:07           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09 21:19             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09 21:39               ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-09 21:57                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09 22:18                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09 22:29                     ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-09 23:02                       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09 23:06                         ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-10  0:31                           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-10  0:34                       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-10  0:49                         ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-10  1:28                           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-10  1:42                             ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-10  2:10                               ` Kyle Moffett
2007-03-10  2:20                               ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-10  2:26                                 ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-10  2:53                                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09 21:57                 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-09 22:12                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09 22:20                     ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2007-03-09 22:31                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-03-10  1:02                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-10  1:10                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-10 17:01             ` James Cloos
2007-03-10 23:16               ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-11 12:38                 ` James Cloos
2007-03-11 12:52                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09 21:10           ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-09  8:36     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-09  9:07       ` Serge Belyshev
2007-03-09  9:49         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-09 10:36           ` Serge Belyshev
2007-03-09 18:07             ` Mark Lord
2007-03-09 18:24               ` Jeffrey Hundstad
2007-03-09 20:23               ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-10 18:21                 ` Mark Lord
2007-03-10 23:34                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-10 23:38                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 18:21                     ` Mark Lord
2007-03-13 20:26                       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 22:06                         ` Mark Lord

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