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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:06:08 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703132106.08878.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070313093914.GA10533@elte.hu>

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 20:39, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> > I just retested with the encoders at nice 0, and the x/gforce combo is
> > terrible. [...]
>
> ok. So nice levels had nothing to do with it - it's some other
> regression somewhere. How does the vanilla scheduler cope with the
> exactly same workload? I.e. could you describe the 'delta' difference in
> behavior - because the delta is what we are interested in mostly, the
> 'absolute' behavior alone is not sufficient. Something like:
>
>  - on scheduler foo, under this workload, the CPU hogs steal 70% CPU
>    time and the resulting desktop experience is 'choppy': mouse pointer
>    is laggy and audio skips.
>
>  - on scheduler bar, under this workload, the CPU hogs are at 40%
>    CPU time and the desktop experience is smooth.
>
> things like that - we really need to be able to see the delta.

I only find a slowdown, no choppiness, no audio stutter (it would be extremely 
hard to make audio stutter in this design without i/o starvation or something 
along those lines). The number difference in cpu percentage I've already 
given on the previous email. The graphics driver does feature in this test 
case as well so others' mileage may vary. Mike said it was terrible.

> > [...]  Funny thing though, x/gforce isn't as badly affected with a
> > kernel build.  Any build is quite noticable, but even at -j8, the
> > effect doen't seem to be (very brief test warning applies) as bad as
> > with only the two encoders running.  That seems quite odd.
>
> likewise, how does the RSDL kernel build behavior compare to the vanilla
> scheduler's behavior? (what happens in one that doesnt happen in the
> other, etc.)

Kernel compiles seem similar till the jobs get above about 3 where rsdl gets 
slower but still smooth. Audio is basically unaffected either way.

Don't forget all the rest of the cases people have posted.

-- 
-ck

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-13 10:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-11  3:57 [PATCH][RSDL-mm 0/7] RSDL cpu scheduler for 2.6.21-rc3-mm2 Con Kolivas
2007-03-11 11:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-11 11:48   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-11 12:08     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-11 12:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-11 12:20     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-11 21:18       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12  7:22     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12  7:48       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12  8:29         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12  8:55           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12  9:22             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12  9:38               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 10:27                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 10:57                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 11:08                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-12 11:23                       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 13:48                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-03-12 18:09                           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 14:34                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 15:26                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-12 18:10                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 19:36                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-12 20:36                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  4:17                             ` Kyle Moffett
2007-03-13  8:09                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-12 18:49                           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 19:06                             ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-13 17:21                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-03-12 20:11                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 20:38                               ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 20:45                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 22:51                                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13  5:10                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  5:53                                       ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13  6:08                                         ` [ck] " Rodney Gordon II
2007-03-13  6:17                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  7:53                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  8:22                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-13  8:18                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-13  8:22                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  9:21                                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13  9:29                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-13  9:41                                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 10:50                                               ` Bill Huey
2007-03-13  9:31                                           ` [ck] " Con Kolivas
2007-03-13 10:24                                             ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-13 23:19                                               ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2007-03-13  9:33                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  9:39                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-13 10:06                                             ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2007-03-13 11:23                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13 11:41                                                 ` Serge Belyshev
2007-03-13 11:46                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13 15:36                                                   ` John Stoffel
2007-03-13 14:17                                           ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-13 15:15                                         ` David Schwartz
2007-03-13 17:59                                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 19:58                                             ` David Schwartz
2007-03-13 20:10                                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 20:35                                                 ` Bill Huey
2007-03-13 20:27                                               ` Bill Huey
2007-03-16 16:42                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-12 23:43                                   ` David Lang
2007-03-13  2:23                                     ` Lee Revell
2007-03-13  6:00                                       ` David Lang
2007-03-12 21:34                                 ` [ck] " jos poortvliet
2007-03-12 21:38                                 ` michael chang
2007-03-13  0:09                                   ` Thibaut VARENE
2007-03-13  6:08                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-13  6:16                                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-13  6:30                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 20:42                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-12 21:05                               ` Serge Belyshev
2007-03-12 21:41                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12 11:25                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-12  9:38               ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-12 10:34                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 16:38                   ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-03-14  2:25                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-03-14  3:25                       ` Gabriel C
2007-03-14  9:44                         ` Xavier Bestel
2007-03-12  8:44         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-11 14:32   ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-12  6:58     ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-03-12 11:16       ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-12 11:49         ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-12 11:58           ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-12 16:38             ` Gene Heskett
2007-03-12 18:34               ` Gene Heskett
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2007-03-12 19:53 Al Boldi

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