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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Glauber de Oliveira Costa <glommer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] Make common x86 arch area for i386 and x86_64 - Take 2
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:11:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070314201156.GA9603@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070314195916.GA5674@elte.hu>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> > Well, I'd like it to be 100% _eventually_, and just unify the 
> > architectures.
> 
> ok, having a single bi-arch final tree is indeed intriquing and i didnt 
> realize that you were suggesting that. [...]
>
> [...] But this really scares the sh*t out of me. [...]

i think the sanest (and pretty much only) way to do it would be to unify 
it _now_, in a single atomic step, safely and in a brute-force way:

 create arch/x86/

'unify' arch/i386/ and arch/x86_64/ into arch/x86/ by doing a 
brute-force prefix solution:

  arch/i386/kernel/process.c   => arch/x86/kernel/x32_process.c
  arch/x86_64/kernel/process.c => arch/x86/kernel/x64_process.c

create bi-arch Makefiles and enable the building of each arch.

obviously, for files that are already totally identical across the two 
arches, the x32_foo.c and x64_foo.c can be changed to foo.c, right away.

nothing else would be done in this step. We'd remove arch/i386/ and 
arch/x86_64/ after that.

new files for new functionality can only be added if they are bi-arch.

from this first 'brutal', 'flag day' intrusive step on, every further 
step would be more finegrained and per-file: an x32_bar.c and x64_bar.c 
file gets merged into bar.c. About 80-90% of our .c files have the same 
fundamental purpose in both arches, so this setup makes the most sense 
to me: first move them 'close' to each other and force them to be part 
of the same basic build architecture, then 'unify' them.

this way we'd also obviously see the costs of not having unified files: 
we'd have to change both the x32_ and the x64_ file for the same thing - 
while when they are unified, only one change is needed. It's easy to 
forget that when the arch directories are separate.

also, unifying two files will also be quite gratifying: one of the files 
vanishes, making up for a sail-through-lkml review.

also, this way it's harder for the two trees (and the shared tree) to 
get out of sync. If we did 3 separate hierarchies we'd have mixed state 
pretty quickly.

also, having the x32_ and x64_ prefix is a painful daily reminder for 
all of us changing the architecture that 'this stuff needs to be 
unified!'.

hm?

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-14 20:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-14  5:08 [PATCH 00/18] Make common x86 arch area for i386 and x86_64 - Take 2 Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 01/18] toplevel Kconfig changes Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 02/18] x86 Makefile changes Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 03/18] acpi Makefile updates Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 04/18] make the cpu/cpufreq/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 05/18] mv kernel/cpu/cpufreq/p4-clockmod.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 06/18] mv kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-lib.h Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 07/18] mv kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-lib.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 08/18] create x86/kernel/cpu/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 09/18] create x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 10/18] make the kernel Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 11/18] rm include pointer to x86_64 early_printk.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 12/18] rm include pointer to x86_64 tsc_sync.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 13/18] create x86/lib/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 14/18] rm include pointer to i386 msr-on-cpu.c file Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 15/18] create x86/mm/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 16/18] kconfig for oprofile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 17/18] create x86/oprofile/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 18/18] Straight file moves Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 15:44   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 16:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  8:00 ` [PATCH 00/18] Make common x86 arch area for i386 and x86_64 - Take 2 Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-14 16:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 10:36 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14  9:48   ` sujay g
2007-03-14 12:35   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 13:05     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 13:36       ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 18:47         ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 18:57           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 12:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 13:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 13:41       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 14:46         ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 16:33           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-14 17:39             ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 17:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 16:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 18:15           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-15 16:50             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15 17:26               ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 15:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 18:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 18:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 19:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 20:07             ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 20:19               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 20:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 20:11             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-03-14 20:21               ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 21:34                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-15 15:50       ` Martin Bligh
2007-03-15 15:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-15 16:06           ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-15 16:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-15 16:47             ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-15 16:57               ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-15 17:01                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-15 17:21                   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-16  4:28               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 11:44                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-16 20:15                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:25                     ` Martin Bligh
2007-03-16 20:48                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:53                         ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:56                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:58                             ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:59                         ` Martin Bligh
2007-03-16 21:02                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 21:51                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-19 14:27                           ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-03-16 20:47                     ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:52                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:55                         ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:59                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:59                     ` Dave Hansen
2007-03-18 23:10                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-19 11:08                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-15 20:02           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-14 15:49   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 18:40   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-16  4:07 ` Kasper Sandberg

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