From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>,
"Shai Fultheim (Shai@scalex86.org)" <shai@scalex86.org>,
pravin b shelar <pravin.shelar@calsoftinc.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] FUTEX : introduce private hashtables
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:59:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070315225955.GX2986@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45F9ABD1.70204@yahoo.com.au>
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:25:53AM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> I would just avoid the complexity and setup/teardown costs, and just
> use a vmalloc'ed global hash for NUMA.
This patch is not the way to go, but neither are vmalloc()'d global
hashtables. When you just happen to hash to the wrong node, you're in
for quasi-unreproducible poor performance. The size is never right, at
which point RCU resizing is required with all its overhead and memory
freeing delays and failure to resize (even if only to contract) under
pressure. Better would be to use a different data structure admitting
locality of reference and adaptively sizing itself, furthermore
localized to the appropriate sharing domain. For file-backed futexes,
this would be the struct address_space. For anonymous-backed futexes,
this would be the COW sharing group, which an anon_vma could almost be
used to represent. Using an object to properly represent the COW
sharing group (i.e. Hugh's struct anon) would do the trick, and one
might as well move the rmap code over to it while we're at it since the
anon_vma scanning tricks are all pointless overhead once the COW
sharing group is accurately tracked (the scanning around for nearby vmas
with ->anon_vma set is not great anyway, though the overhead is hidden
in the noise of large teardown and setup operations; inheriting on
fork() is much simpler and faster).
In such a manner localization is accomplished while no interface
extensions are required.
-- wli
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-15 23:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-08 7:07 [RFC] NUMA futex hashing Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-08-08 9:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 20:31 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-08-08 9:37 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-08 9:58 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 10:07 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-08 9:57 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 10:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 10:36 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 12:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 12:47 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 12:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 14:39 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 15:11 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 15:36 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 16:22 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:26 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 16:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 16:34 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 16:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 1:56 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:58 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 17:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 1:58 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-09 6:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 6:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 19:10 ` [PATCH 0/3] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes, SMP and NUMA improvements Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 20:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-16 8:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-16 9:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-16 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-16 10:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-16 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 7:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-05 17:49 ` [PATCH] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes Eric Dumazet
2007-04-05 20:43 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-06 1:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 5:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-06 11:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 6:05 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-06 17:41 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-06 12:26 ` Shared futexes (was [PATCH] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes) Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-06 13:02 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-06 13:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-06 13:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 13:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-06 13:40 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 12:31 ` [PATCH] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-07 8:43 ` [PATCH, take4] " Eric Dumazet
2007-04-07 9:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-07 10:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 7:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 8:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 9:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 9:30 ` Pierre Peiffer
2007-04-11 9:39 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 9:40 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 9:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-12 1:57 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-07 11:18 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-07 11:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-07 16:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 22:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10 9:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 9:19 ` [PATCH, take5] " Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 12:23 ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-26 12:55 ` [PATCH, take6] " Eric Dumazet
2007-04-26 13:35 ` Pierre Peiffer
2007-03-15 19:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] FUTEX : introduce PROCESS_PRIVATE semantic Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 19:16 ` [PATCH 2/3] FUTEX : introduce private hashtables Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 20:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15 21:09 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-03-15 21:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15 22:59 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2007-03-15 19:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] FUTEX : NUMA friendly global hashtable Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 0:13 ` [RFC] NUMA futex hashing Ravikiran G Thirumalai
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