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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Martin Bligh <mbligh@mbligh.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Glauber de Oliveira Costa <glommer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] Make common x86 arch area for i386 and x86_64 - Take 2
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:08:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070319110844.GA17402@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703181608320.6730@woody.linux-foundation.org>

> And those machines are basically identical to perfectly regular i386 
> platforms.

For modern (2001+) i386 platforms sure. The problem is the old and the weird.

> 
> So the whole argument that it would "diverge" is total crap. It obviously 
> won't diverge, simply because the support for old setups is needed on 
> x86-64 *regardless* of whether 32-bit support exists on the same platform 
> or not.

There is still some unneeded old platform code on x86-64 that will
be removed (although I'm slowly discovering that some like the irq 0 
hacks are still needed :/). 

i386 support goes much farther back than the earlier x86-64
code supported, not even talking about complications like the weird
and fragile subarchs i386 has.

And x86-64 since it supports only modern systems is easier
to hack because it's much easier to regression test and only
needs to care about reasonably modern hardware. That is for 
example it has new smpboot and i386 doesn't and has extended 
per CPU IRQ vectors and i386 doesn't and has new machine check
code and i386 doesn't etc.etc.

It was basically a new start in many areas.

-Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-19 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-14  5:08 [PATCH 00/18] Make common x86 arch area for i386 and x86_64 - Take 2 Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 01/18] toplevel Kconfig changes Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 02/18] x86 Makefile changes Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 03/18] acpi Makefile updates Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 04/18] make the cpu/cpufreq/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 05/18] mv kernel/cpu/cpufreq/p4-clockmod.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 06/18] mv kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-lib.h Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 07/18] mv kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-lib.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 08/18] create x86/kernel/cpu/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 09/18] create x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 10/18] make the kernel Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 11/18] rm include pointer to x86_64 early_printk.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 12/18] rm include pointer to x86_64 tsc_sync.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 13/18] create x86/lib/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 14/18] rm include pointer to i386 msr-on-cpu.c file Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 15/18] create x86/mm/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 16/18] kconfig for oprofile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 17/18] create x86/oprofile/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 18/18] Straight file moves Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 15:44   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 16:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  8:00 ` [PATCH 00/18] Make common x86 arch area for i386 and x86_64 - Take 2 Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-14 16:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 10:36 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14  9:48   ` sujay g
2007-03-14 12:35   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 13:05     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 13:36       ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 18:47         ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 18:57           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 12:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 13:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 13:41       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 14:46         ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 16:33           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-14 17:39             ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 17:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 16:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 18:15           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-15 16:50             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15 17:26               ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 15:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 18:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 18:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 19:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 20:07             ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 20:19               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 20:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 20:11             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 20:21               ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 21:34                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-15 15:50       ` Martin Bligh
2007-03-15 15:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-15 16:06           ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-15 16:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-15 16:47             ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-15 16:57               ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-15 17:01                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-15 17:21                   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-16  4:28               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 11:44                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-16 20:15                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:25                     ` Martin Bligh
2007-03-16 20:48                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:53                         ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:56                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:58                             ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:59                         ` Martin Bligh
2007-03-16 21:02                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 21:51                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-19 14:27                           ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-03-16 20:47                     ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:52                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:55                         ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:59                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:59                     ` Dave Hansen
2007-03-18 23:10                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-19 11:08                     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-03-15 20:02           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-14 15:49   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 18:40   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-16  4:07 ` Kasper Sandberg

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