From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: dgc@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/3] fix illogical behavior in balance_dirty_pages()
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:32:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070326013226.786e5b4e.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1HVlN5-00016C-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:20:11 +0200 Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
> > > > > It also makes a deadlock possible when one filesystem is writing data
> > > > > through another, and the balance_dirty_pages() for the lower
> > > > > filesystem is stalling the writeback for the upper filesystem's
> > > > > data (*).
> > > >
> > > > I still don't understand this one. I got lost when belatedly told that
> > > > i_mutex had something to do with it.
> > >
> > > This deadlock only happens, if there's some bottleneck for writing
> > > data to the lower filesystem. This bottleneck could be
> > >
> > > - i_mutex, preventing parallel writes to the same inode
> > > - limited number of filesystem threads
> > > - limited request queue length in the upper filesystem
> > >
> > > Imagine it this way: balance_dirty_pages() for the lower filesystem is
> > > stalling a write() because dirty pages in the upper filesystem are
> > > over the limit. Because there's a bottleneck for writing to the lower
> > > filesystem, this is stalling _other_ writes from completing. So
> > > there's no progress in writing back pages from the upper filesystem.
> >
> > You mean that someone is stuck in balance_dirty_pages() against the lower
> > fs while holding locks which prevent writes into the upper fs from
> > succeeding?
> >
> > Draw us a picture ;)
>
> Well, not a picture, but a sort of indented call trace:
>
> [some process, which has a fuse file writably mmaped]
> write fault on upper filesystem
> balance_dirty_pages
> loop...
> submit write requests
This, I assume, is the upper fs
> ---------------------------------
> [fuse loopback fs thread 1]
> read request from /dev/fuse
> sys_write
> mutex_lock(i_mutex)
> ...
> copy data to page cache
> balance_dirty_pages
> loop ...
> submit write requests
> write requests completed ...
> dirty still over limit ...
> ... loop forever
>
> [fuse loopback fs thread 2]
> read request from /dev/fuse
> sys_write
> mute_lock(i_mutex) blocks
And these, I assume, are handling what you term the lower fs.
>
> The lower filesystem (e.g. ext3) has completed the single write
> request that was sent to it, and then it's just looping in
> balance_dirty_pages. The upper (fuse) filesystem has all the dirty
> data (over the threshold), either still dirty or waiting in the
> request queue as writeback.
>
> Does this help?
yup.
Interesting problem. I don't suppose that it'd be appreiated if I were to
commend the use of O_DIRECT for handling the lower fs ;)
Let me think about that a bit, after I've made the latest shitpile people
have inflicted upon me begin to look like it has a chance of compiling.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-26 9:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-24 21:55 [patch 1/3] fix illogical behavior in balance_dirty_pages() Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-24 21:57 ` [patch 2/3] remove throttle_vm_writeout() Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-25 23:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-26 8:35 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-24 21:58 ` [patch 3/3] balance dirty pages from loop device Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-25 10:03 ` [patch 1/3] fix illogical behavior in balance_dirty_pages() Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-25 11:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-25 11:34 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-25 11:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-25 20:41 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-25 23:35 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-26 8:26 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-26 9:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-26 9:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-26 9:32 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-03-26 9:48 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-26 9:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-26 10:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-26 13:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-27 0:30 ` David Chinner
2007-03-27 0:23 ` David Chinner
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2007-04-03 18:40 Kris Corwin
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