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From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@gmail.com>,
	Mariusz Kozlowski <m.kozlowski@tuxland.pl>,
	Oliver Pinter <oliver.pntr@gmail.com>,
	Sid Boyce <g3vbv@blueyonder.co.uk>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i386: add command line option "local_apic_timer_c2_ok"
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:19:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703271719.25795.lenb@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1174917142.4182.39.camel@chaos>

On Monday 26 March 2007 09:52, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 12:31 +0000, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > +	lapic_timer_c2_ok	[IA-32,APIC] trust the local apic timer in
> > > +			C2 power state.
> > > +

> I still twist my brain how to autodetect that in a safe way, which would
> make it really useful for the firmware tester.

I think the only fool-proof way to do this automatically is to
1. do a boot-time calibration vs HPET, RTC, or 8254 to make sure it starts sane.
   ideally, this boot time test would enter the deepest available C-state --
   as that would catch 99% of the failures.
2. do a _continuous_ sanity check against the same time to make sure it never gets off track.
   It has to be continuous because we apparently have no control over
   when the BIOS breaks it on some systems.  However, continuous really
   means "long term" here, because over the uptime of the system we'd
   probably notice the drift between different timers etc, so we'd
   have to reset the sanity check periodically to not get fooled by that.

If this worked, then we could delete the new DMI entry for the nx6325,
as that would get detected and disable the lapic timer use automatically.
We could also delete the check for C2 and the check for C3 to disable
the lapic timer.

-Len

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-27 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 259+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-16 16:33 Linux 2.6.21-rc4 Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 17:01 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-03-16 17:44 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-16 18:26   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-16 18:55     ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-16 23:23       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-16 23:31         ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-17  8:19           ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-03-16 18:54   ` Takashi Iwai
2007-03-16 19:03     ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-17 23:46       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-18 13:04         ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-16 20:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-16 20:47   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-16 23:25     ` [PATCH] clockevents: Fix suspend/resume to disk hangs Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-17  9:35       ` Milan Broz
2007-03-17 10:07       ` Thomas Meyer
2007-03-17 21:47         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-18 17:58           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-18  0:42         ` appletouch quirk doesn't run at resume Adrian Bunk
2007-03-18 18:45           ` Jiri Kosina
2007-03-18 19:01             ` Thomas Meyer
2007-03-18 19:22               ` Jiri Kosina
2007-03-27 21:02                 ` Thomas Meyer
2007-03-28 12:26                   ` Jiri Kosina
2007-03-28 13:24                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-28 16:51                       ` Thomas Meyer
2007-03-28 17:06                         ` Jiri Kosina
2007-03-28 17:35                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-20  9:35       ` [PATCH] clockevents: Fix suspend/resume to disk hangs Marcus Better
2007-03-21 14:04         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-22 10:34           ` Marcus Better
2007-03-23  9:14             ` Marcus Better
2007-03-23 10:05               ` Tino Keitel
2007-03-23 13:47               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-23 14:36                 ` Marcus Better
2007-03-16 21:11 ` Linux 2.6.21-rc4 Randy Dunlap
2007-03-16 22:39   ` Randy Dunlap
2007-03-16 23:13     ` Chris Friesen
2007-03-16 23:27       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-17  6:43     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-03-18 12:39       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-03-19  4:16         ` Randy Dunlap
2007-03-18 18:49 ` [1/6] 2.6.21-rc4: known regressions Adrian Bunk
2007-03-20 10:24   ` Tobias Diedrich
2007-03-20 11:14     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-22  3:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-22  4:18     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-22 15:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-23  1:08         ` Mingming Cao
2007-03-23  1:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-23  2:11             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-23  7:51               ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-23  9:37                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-23 17:19                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-23 12:01                 ` [patch] hrtimers debug patch Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                   ` <4607BDD9.1010002@googlemail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <6bffcb0e0703260720i37bbb956o3d20019fe4ac9879@mail.gmail.com>
2007-03-26 14:33                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-26 14:42                         ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-26 15:07                           ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-26 17:02                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-26 17:50                       ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-04-06 15:27                       ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-04-06 16:39                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-23 11:42             ` [1/6] 2.6.21-rc4: known regressions Ingo Molnar
2007-03-23 11:56               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-23 15:08                 ` [PATCH] i386: add command line option "local_apic_timer_c2_ok" Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-26 12:31                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-26 13:52                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-27 21:19                       ` Len Brown [this message]
2007-03-27 21:34                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-27 22:16                           ` Len Brown
2007-03-28  2:18                             ` Len Brown
2007-03-29 14:15                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-29 14:53                               ` Langsdorf, Mark
2007-03-29 16:50                                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-29 20:02                                   ` Mark Langsdorf
2007-03-29 20:49                                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-29 21:16                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-29 21:45                                         ` Andreas Mohr
2007-03-29 21:56                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-29 22:06                                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-29 22:05                                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-30 21:06                                           ` Grzegorz Chwesewicz
2007-03-31  7:47                                           ` Grzegorz Chwesewicz
2007-03-29 21:43                                       ` Grzegorz Chwesewicz
2007-03-29 21:55                                         ` Grzegorz Chwesewicz
2007-03-29 14:19                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-23 18:13                 ` [1/6] 2.6.21-rc4: known regressions Linus Torvalds
2007-03-23 18:16                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-23 18:28                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-23 18:43                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-23 12:27             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-22 18:24       ` Mariusz Kozłowski
2007-03-18 18:49 ` [2/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-18 19:25   ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-19 16:06   ` Randy Dunlap
2007-03-19 16:15     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-19 17:07       ` Randy Dunlap
2007-03-20 15:32   ` Ray Lee
2007-03-18 18:49 ` [3/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-26  1:25   ` Jeff Chua
2007-03-26  4:05     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-26  5:37       ` Jeff Chua
2007-03-26 16:26         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-26 17:46           ` Jeff Chua
2007-03-28  7:04             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-28 13:43               ` Maxim
2007-03-28 14:41                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-28 15:01                   ` Maxim
2007-03-28 16:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-28 19:38                       ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-03-28 20:19                         ` Maxim
2007-03-28 20:59                           ` David Brownell
2007-03-28 21:27                             ` Maxim
2007-03-29 22:33                               ` David Brownell
2007-03-29 23:29                                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-03-30  0:09                                   ` David Brownell
2007-03-30  0:48                                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-03-28 20:42                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-28 21:17                           ` David Brownell
2007-03-28 22:26                           ` Maxim
2007-03-29  4:41                       ` [ PATCH] Add suspend/resume for HPET was: " Maxim
2007-03-29  5:08                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-29  5:47                           ` Maxim
2007-03-29 13:20                             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-03-29 13:31                               ` Maxim
2007-03-29 13:46                                 ` [PATCH v2] Add suspend/resume for HPET Maxim Levitsky
2007-03-29 16:53                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-29 17:28                                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-03-29 17:51                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-29 20:46                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-29 18:11                                   ` Jeff Chua
2007-03-31 15:51                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-31 16:01                                     ` Jeff Chua
2007-03-31 16:09                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-31 16:09                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-31 16:33                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-31 16:41                                         ` Greg KH
2007-03-31 16:53                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-31 17:02                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-31 18:18                                             ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-03-31 19:32                                               ` David Brownell
2007-04-01  3:13                                                 ` Jeff Chua
2007-04-01  4:13                                                   ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 17:08                                           ` Greg KH
2007-03-31 17:55                                           ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-03-31 16:56                                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-03-31 17:09                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-31 17:17                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-31 17:58                                           ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-29 16:35                             ` [ PATCH] Add suspend/resume for HPET was: Re: [3/6] 2.6.21-rc4: known regressions Linus Torvalds
2007-03-29 16:51                               ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-03-29 17:22                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-29 17:47                                   ` [patch, v2] add suspend/resume for HPET Ingo Molnar
2007-03-28 18:04                 ` [3/6] 2.6.21-rc4: known regressions Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-28 18:32                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-28 18:35                   ` Randy Dunlap
2007-03-29 14:24                   ` Jeff Chua
2007-03-18 18:49 ` [4/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-18 18:49 ` [5/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-18 19:07   ` Maxim
2007-03-18 19:22     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-18 19:59       ` Maxim
2007-03-18 20:03         ` Maxim
2007-03-18 18:49 ` [6/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-20  2:38   ` David Miller
2007-03-24 19:50     ` David Miller
2007-03-19 20:39 ` 2.6.21-rc4: known regressions with patches available Adrian Bunk
2007-03-20 11:02   ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2007-03-23 18:48 ` [1/5] 2.6.21-rc4: known regressions (v2) Adrian Bunk
2007-03-25  4:45   ` David Miller
2007-03-25  5:08     ` Paul Collins
2007-03-25 12:22     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-23 18:48 ` [2/5] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-23 21:08   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-24  0:14   ` Ray Lee
2007-03-24  6:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-24 18:17       ` Ray Lee
2007-03-24 19:11     ` [PATCH] x86_64: avoid sending LOCAL_TIMER_VECTOR IPI to itself Ingo Molnar
2007-03-25 19:24       ` Ray Lee
2007-03-26 10:01   ` [2/5] 2.6.21-rc4: known regressions (v2) Tejun Heo
2007-03-23 18:50 ` [3/5] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-23 19:07   ` Maxim
2007-03-23 20:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24 17:04   ` Thomas Meyer
2007-03-24 18:02     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-24 18:20       ` Thomas Meyer
2007-03-24 18:47         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-24 20:34           ` Thomas Meyer
2007-03-25  3:39             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-25 11:41               ` Thomas Meyer
2007-03-25 12:03                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-25 12:28                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-25 12:56                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-25 19:14                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-25 20:37                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-26 21:03                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-25 14:17                     ` Thomas Meyer
2007-03-25 18:56                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-25 13:54                   ` Thomas Meyer
2007-03-25 14:48                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-25 17:25                   ` Thomas Meyer
2007-03-25 19:06                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-25 19:31                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-26 20:01               ` Luck, Tony
2007-03-27  3:29                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-02 15:38                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-02 16:38                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-02 19:50                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-25 21:34   ` Frédéric Riss
2007-03-26  6:45     ` Frédéric RISS
2007-03-26  9:14       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-26 10:36         ` Frederic Riss
2007-03-26 18:53         ` Frédéric Riss
2007-03-26 19:02           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-26 19:39             ` Frederic Riss
2007-03-26 19:46               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-26 10:00   ` Marcus Better
2007-03-26 12:35     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-26 14:11       ` Marcus Better
2007-03-26 14:34     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-26 17:42       ` Marcus Better
2007-03-26 18:48         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-27  9:42           ` Marcus Better
2007-03-23 18:50 ` [4/5] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-23 19:15   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-23 19:15     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-23 19:21     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-23 22:23     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-03-23 22:43       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-23 23:35         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-25 12:42           ` [PATCH] clocksource: Fix thinko in watchdog selection Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-23 23:00       ` [4/5] 2.6.21-rc4: known regressions (v2) Adrian Bunk
2007-03-23 23:05         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-03-23 19:22   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-24 13:47     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-25 12:31       ` [PATCH] dynticks: fix hrtimer rounding error in next_timer_interrupt Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-23 19:49   ` [4/5] 2.6.21-rc4: known regressions (v2) Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]     ` <20070325071023.GL17532@mellanox.co.il>
2007-03-25  7:37       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-25  8:57         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-25 10:17           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-25 10:15             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-25 10:27               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-25 10:25                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-25 10:38                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-25 11:16                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-25 12:09                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-26 14:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-23 20:00   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-23 20:08   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-24 13:59     ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-24 15:14       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-24 16:13         ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-23 21:43   ` john stultz
2007-03-23 21:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-24  0:44       ` john stultz
2007-03-23 18:50 ` [5/5] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-24 11:25 ` 2.6.21-rc4: known regressions with patches (v2) Adrian Bunk
2007-03-26 12:37   ` Bob Tracy

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