From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
dipankar@in.ibm.com, dino@in.ibm.com,
masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 18:12:00 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070402124200.GA9566@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070402111828.GA14771@elte.hu>
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 01:18:28PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > if (freezing(current))
> > freeze_process(p); /* function exported by freezer */
>
> yeah. (is that safe with tasklist_lock held?)
from my scan of the code, it appears to be safe ..
> i'm wondering whether we could do even better than the signal approach.
> I _think_ the best approach would be to only wait for tasks that are _on
> the runqueue_. I.e. any task that has scheduled away with
> TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE (and might not be able to process signal events for
> a long time) is still freezable because it scheduled away.
I am slightly uncomfortable with "not waiting for tasks inside the
kernel to get out" part, even if it that is done only for
TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE tasks. For ex: consider this:
flush_workqueue() <- One of biggest offenders of lock_cpu_hotplug() to date
for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
flush_cpu_workqueue
TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE sleep
If we don't wait for this thread from being frozen "voluntarily" (because it is
in TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE sleep), then flush_workqueue is clearly racy wrt
cpu hotplug.
I would imagine other situations like this are possible where "not waiting
for everyone to /voluntarily/ quiece" can break cpu hotplug. In fact,
the biggest reason why we are moving to freezer based hotplug is the
fact that it quiesces everyone, leading to (hopefully) zero race conditions.
--
Regards,
vatsa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-02 12:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-02 5:34 [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] Enhance process freezer interface for usage beyond software suspend Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 13:56 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-02 20:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-02 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-06 14:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-06 22:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-07 9:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-07 9:47 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-09 3:04 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 7:59 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 9:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 10:59 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 11:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-02 5:37 ` [PATCH 2/8] Make process freezer reentrant Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 9:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 10:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:38 ` [PATCH 3/8] Use process freezer for cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 10:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 12:14 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 13:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 17:27 ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-06 17:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 17:47 ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-06 22:22 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-14 18:48 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-02 5:39 ` [PATCH 4/8] Rip out lock_cpu_hotplug() Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:40 ` [PATCH 5/8] __cpu_up: use singlethreaded workqueue Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 12:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-02 5:41 ` [PATCH 6/8] Make non-singlethreaded workqueues freezeable by default Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 11:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-02 5:42 ` [PATCH 7/8] Clean up workqueue.c with respect to the freezer based cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 11:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-03 13:59 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 15:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-03 17:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 15:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-04 17:49 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-05 12:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-12 2:22 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-12 10:01 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-12 16:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-13 9:46 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:42 ` [PATCH 8/8] Make kernel threads freezeable for cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 6:16 ` [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 9:28 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-02 11:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 12:42 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2007-04-02 14:16 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 18:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-03 12:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 14:15 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 19:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-04 3:15 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 10:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 10:41 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-04 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 12:24 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 11:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 11:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-02 13:22 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-03 12:01 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 19:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-03 20:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 10:06 ` utrace merge Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 10:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-04 18:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 14:01 ` [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Gautham R Shenoy
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