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From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	mingo@elte.hu, dipankar@in.ibm.com, dino@in.ibm.com,
	masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] Clean up workqueue.c with respect to the freezer based cpu-hotplug
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 22:48:20 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070403171820.GA8646@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070403150336.GA850@tv-sign.ru>

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 07:03:36PM +0400, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> I think it would be nice to do. I believe we can cleanup ksoftirqd()
> and migration_thread() as well (kill wait_to_die: loop). Probably it

I doubt whether we can kill it in migration_thread, since that is
another thread which is unfrozen for hotplug (stop_machine relies on its
services while rest of the world is frozen).

> is better to introduce a new helper for that, kthread_thaw_stop() or
> something.

Will think of that.


> > Why?
> 
> What if is_single_threaded(wq) == true? In that case we should call
> flush_cpu_workqueue(cpu) only if cpu == singlethread_cpu, otherwise
> this is unneeded and wrong, because per_cpu_ptr(wq->cpu_wq, cpu) was
> not initialized.

Ah yes ..

> > kthread_stop(p)
> > {
> > 	int old_exempt_flags;
> > 
> > 	task_lock(p);
> > 	old_exempt_flags = p->flags;
> > 	p->flags |= PFE_ALL;	/* Exempt 'p' from being frozen? */
> 
> I agree, we should mark this thread as non-freezable, but we can't modify
> p->flags, this is racy. "current" owns its ->flags and it is not atomic.
> Note that thaw_process() checks frozen(p) when it clears PF_FROZEN.

I suspected that we cannot modify p->flags just like that. How abt
moving freezer exemption bits to a separate field, which is protected by
task_lock?

> Actually, we should do this before destroy_workqueue() calls flush_workqueue().
> Otherwise flush_cpu_workqueue() can hang forever in a similar manner.

Yep. I guess these are a class of freezer deadlocks very similar to vfork
parent waiting on child case. I get a feeling these should become common
outside of kthread too (A waits on B for something, B gets frozen, which
means A won't freeze causing freezer to fail). Can freezer detect this
dependency somehow and thaw B automatically? Probably not that easy ..

> Needs more thinking, I guess.

[snip]

> No, no, workqueue_mutex can't help. Just for example: CPU_UP_PREPARE completes
> and drops workqueue_mutex. __create_workqueue(wq) doesn't see the new cpu, it
> is not on cpu_online_map, so it doesn't create cwq->thread. CPU_ONLINE oopses.

Ok ..sure.

-- 
Regards,
vatsa

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-03 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-02  5:34 [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02  5:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] Enhance process freezer interface for usage beyond software suspend Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 13:56   ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-02 20:48     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-02 20:51       ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-06 14:34         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-06 22:20           ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-07  9:33             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-07  9:47               ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-09  3:04         ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03  7:59       ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05  9:46   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 10:59     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 11:30       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-02  5:37 ` [PATCH 2/8] Make process freezer reentrant Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05  9:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 10:19     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02  5:38 ` [PATCH 3/8] Use process freezer for cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 10:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 12:14     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 13:34       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 17:27   ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-06 17:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 17:47       ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-06 22:22         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-14 18:48       ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-02  5:39 ` [PATCH 4/8] Rip out lock_cpu_hotplug() Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02  5:40 ` [PATCH 5/8] __cpu_up: use singlethreaded workqueue Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 12:08   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-02  5:41 ` [PATCH 6/8] Make non-singlethreaded workqueues freezeable by default Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 11:57   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 20:06     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-02  5:42 ` [PATCH 7/8] Clean up workqueue.c with respect to the freezer based cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 11:47   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-03 13:59     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 15:03       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-03 17:18         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2007-04-04 15:28           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-04 17:49             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-05 12:20               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-12  2:22           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-12 10:01             ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-12 16:00             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-13  9:46               ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02  5:42 ` [PATCH 8/8] Make kernel threads freezeable for cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02  6:16 ` [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02  9:28   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-02 11:18     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 12:42       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-02 14:16         ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 18:56         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-03 12:56           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 14:15             ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 19:25               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-04  3:15               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 10:04                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 10:41                   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-04 11:49                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 12:24                       ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 11:19   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 11:27     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 22:12       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-02 13:22   ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-03 12:01   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 19:34     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-03 20:24       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 10:06         ` utrace merge Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 10:36           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-04 18:41             ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 14:01   ` [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Gautham R Shenoy

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