From: Brad Boyer <flar@allandria.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers.
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 15:10:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070403221002.GA13210@cynthia.pants.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1175644642.10567.31.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 07:57:22PM -0400, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > The TTY_MAJOR should have never belonged to 8250.c in the first place.
> > I know it's just my opinion, but I think this major device should be
> > owned by the serial core, and it shouldn't matter what chip drives each
> > individual port. Each hardware driver should just register with the
> > core how many ports it has and should be allocated from the same range.
>
> Yeah, because that works out really well for Ethernet devices and SCSI
> disks, with different numbers every day of the week according to what
> order we happen to load drivers in. :)
It just leads to the problem ethernet has on BSD/Solaris/etc. You have
to ask yourself "is the ethernet on this system le0 or hme0 or maybe
something else entirely?" in this case. I agree it does solve the issue
of detection order breaking the configuration, but it is less than ideal.
I think the issue of the devices shuffling around is less likely to be
a problem on serial, although we don't have the nice uniqueness of
hardware identifiers that was used to do device renaming in ethernet.
I suppose my opinion on this shows that I didn't come from the x86
side of Linux. The breakdown on this argument seems to have always
been that the x86 people wanted 8250 to own ttyS* and most others
wanted it shared. I know it was that way when m68k tried to merge
in their serial framework that did allow such sharing across any
number of hardware drivers.
Brad Boyer
flar@allandria.com
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2007-04-03 23:14 ` [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers Paul Mackerras
2007-04-03 23:28 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 21:29 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-03 23:57 ` David Woodhouse
[not found] ` <200704032210 02.GA13210@cynthia.pants.nu>
2007-04-03 22:10 ` Brad Boyer [this message]
2007-04-04 0:54 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 23:09 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-04 1:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 2:05 ` Chris Adams
2007-04-04 2:10 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-04 1:57 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 8:51 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 9:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 16:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 16:22 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04 16:34 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 17:38 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04 1:16 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:28 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:07 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 1:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:23 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 1:32 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 16:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 17:50 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04 1:50 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 11:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 12:20 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-04-04 1:48 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 3:07 ` Gerhard Mack
2007-04-11 16:30 ` Benny Amorsen
2007-04-12 15:34 ` Roland Dreier
2007-04-13 2:45 ` Gerhard Mack
2007-04-13 2:24 ` David Lang
2007-04-13 8:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 0:02 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 0:12 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 22:14 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-04 1:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04 1:17 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04 0:01 ` [PATCH v2] " David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 1:25 ` [PATCH] " Alan Cox
2007-04-04 4:20 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 5:19 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 5:50 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 7:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 13:43 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-04-04 7:52 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 8:41 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 5:53 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 6:03 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 6:31 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 14:19 ` [PATCH v3] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers; optionally David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 23:48 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-05 12:45 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 22:53 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-05 22:59 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 14:31 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 14:47 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 15:09 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 15:18 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 15:49 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 15:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 8:12 ` [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers David Miller
2007-04-04 8:38 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 8:43 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 9:00 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 19:58 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 12:21 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-04 16:10 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 16:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 16:25 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 17:41 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-04 18:15 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 19:50 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 6:05 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-05 8:50 ` Russell King
2007-04-05 16:15 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-04-05 21:41 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-03 23:56 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04 6:58 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 14:16 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 23:55 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:19 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:21 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:47 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 7:47 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 9:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 16:06 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 6:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-08-14 11:49 ` Olaf Hering
2007-08-14 11:53 ` David Woodhouse
2007-08-14 16:24 ` Olaf Hering
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