From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2992746AbXDDIiO (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Apr 2007 04:38:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S2992747AbXDDIiO (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Apr 2007 04:38:14 -0400 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([217.147.92.249]:4759 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2992746AbXDDIiN (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Apr 2007 04:38:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:38:03 +0100 From: Russell King To: David Miller Cc: dwmw2@infradead.org, paulus@samba.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, flar@allandria.com, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers. Message-ID: <20070404083803.GA13134@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: David Miller , dwmw2@infradead.org, paulus@samba.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, flar@allandria.com, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <1175663999.2932.8.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <17939.15726.114059.679277@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> <1175666635.2932.17.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20070404.011208.120446173.davem@davemloft.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070404.011208.120446173.davem@davemloft.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 01:12:08AM -0700, David Miller wrote: > Your ARM example holds zero water because that platform has all kinds > of weird devices so people there are used to all kinds of non-standard > conventions and naming. I think your perception is more wrong than you could ever think. Montavista would absolutely love all serial ports to be under the ttyS* naming, especially on ARM where there is a wide variety of different possibilities - ttyAM, ttySA, ttyPXA, ttyAMA, and so the list goes on. It apparantly gives their support department real headaches. There are similar feelings from the handhelds.org community. However, despite people pressing for it, there's yet to be a *sane* *technical* *solution* to the problem. All I've seen so far is one bad hack. -- Russell King Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ maintainer of: