From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 04/17] Add pagetable accessors to pack and unpack pagetable entries
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 11:57:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070404095745.GA16726@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46136F25.7030907@goop.org>
* Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:
> > What do the benchmarks say with CONFIG_PARAVIRT on native hardware
> > compared to !CONFIG_PARAVIRT. e.g. does lmbench suffer?
>
> Barely. There's a slight hit for not using patching, and patching is
> almost identical to native performance. The most noticeable
> difference is in the null syscall microbenchmark, but once you get to
> complex things the difference is in the noise.
i'd not call this 'barely' or 'noise'! Look:
> Processor, Processes - times in microseconds - smaller is better
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Host OS Mhz null null open slct sig sig fork exec sh
> call I/O stat clos TCP inst hndl proc proc proc
> --------- ------------- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
> non-paravirt
> ezr Linux 2.6.21- 1000 0.25 0.52 31.6 34.7 10.3 1.03 5.31 726. 1565 4520
> ezr Linux 2.6.21- 1000 0.25 0.52 31.8 34.7 12.6 1.03 5.41 725. 1564 4585
> ezr Linux 2.6.21- 1000 0.25 0.55 31.7 34.5 11.8 1.02 5.47 720. 1595 4518
>
> paravirt, no patching
> ezr Linux 2.6.21- 1000 0.28 0.55 31.3 34.3 10.0 1.05 5.56 747. 1621 4675
> ezr Linux 2.6.21- 1000 0.28 0.56 31.5 34.3 12.9 1.05 5.66 755. 1629 4684
> ezr Linux 2.6.21- 1000 0.28 0.55 31.8 34.5 12.5 1.05 5.45 747. 1622 4695
the main metric we are interested in is the overhead for people who just
want to run the non-patched native kernel that has CONFIG_PARAVIRT
enabled (99%+ of the users at the moment), so the delta is:
null: +12.0%
null IO: +7.5%
stat: within noise
open/close: within noise
TCP: ~5.0%
signal install: 2.0%
signal handle: 4.7%
fork: 2.7%
exec: 3.6%
shell: 3.6%
this is not 'barely measurable' but 'BLOODY LARGE' overhead. Really. I
mean for something as complex as exec we still are 'a couple of percent'
slower? Linux has literally _dozens_ of important but inactive features
in every critical fastpath and in every critical system call, and if
each took 'just a few percent', we'd be a few _times_ slower as an end
result, for features that are not even used! The answer to any such
overhead is: "get your act together and stop burdening those who dont
want to use that feature" ... This is a basic engineering requirement.
> paravirt, patching
> ezr Linux 2.6.21- 1000 0.25 0.53 31.8 34.4 10.1 1.04 5.44 730. 1583 4600
> ezr Linux 2.6.21- 1000 0.26 0.55 32.1 35.2 13.3 1.03 5.48 748. 1589 4606
> ezr Linux 2.6.21- 1000 0.26 0.54 32.0 34.9 14.1 1.04 5.43 752. 1606 4647
i guess this pretty much makes the case for patching ...
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-04 9:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-02 5:56 [patch 00/17] paravirt_ops updates Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:56 ` [patch 01/17] update MAINTAINERS Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:56 ` [patch 02/17] Remove CONFIG_DEBUG_PARAVIRT Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:56 ` [patch 03/17] use paravirt_nop to consistently mark no-op operations Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:56 ` [patch 04/17] Add pagetable accessors to pack and unpack pagetable entries Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 6:12 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-02 6:35 ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-02 6:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04 9:25 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04 9:57 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-04-04 11:49 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-04 15:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04 15:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 16:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04 11:47 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-04 15:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04 15:56 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-04 16:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04 22:59 ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-04 23:39 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:56 ` [patch 05/17] Hooks to set up initial pagetable Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:56 ` [patch 06/17] Allocate a fixmap slot Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:56 ` [patch 07/17] Allow paravirt backend to choose kernel PMD sharing Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:57 ` [patch 08/17] add hooks to intercept mm creation and destruction Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:57 ` [patch 09/17] rename struct paravirt_patch to paravirt_patch_site for clarity Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:57 ` [patch 10/17] Use patch site IDs computed from offset in paravirt_ops structure Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:57 ` [patch 11/17] Fix patch site clobbers to include return register Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:57 ` [patch 12/17] Consistently wrap paravirt ops callsites to make them patchable Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 7:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-02 7:20 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:57 ` [patch 13/17] add common patching machinery Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:57 ` [patch 14/17] add flush_tlb_others paravirt_op Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:57 ` [patch 15/17] revert map_pt_hook Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:57 ` [patch 16/17] add kmap_atomic_pte for mapping highpte pages Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 7:18 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-02 7:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 5:57 ` [patch 17/17] Add a sched_clock paravirt_op Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 6:09 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-02 6:47 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02 6:50 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-02 7:06 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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